Re: [HumJanenge] Rules for Improving India using the Right to Information laws

Yes, you and Manoj Kamra etc are starting to understand the process.

RTI is NOT a process to get information (which you can hardly do anything with anyway), but to ASK inconvenient questions which the PA cannot answer (and which we dont want him to answer).

To do this successfully, we must

A) use the PA's own information and processes against them, and get them to start passing the buck to each other and widening the circle..

B) Pose absolutely perfect questions (in the garb of seeking information)

C) Give no chance for the PIO to deny information using any exemption / trick available to him under the RTI Act and Rules.

D) Use the PIOs reply (which you must understand carefully for what it does NOT say) to your best advantage.

By this means we are MISUSING RTI Act (since we dont actually need the information) but are simply posing inconvenient questions and keeping the flame burning. This strategy works on the assumption that there are enough HONEST "babus" who knoiw how to use your RTI to save themselves within their own rules and regulations..

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Abhimanyu <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarbajit.

in most of the cases they do not give us information but they stop the corruption in that perticular case within 3 days ...repeat ... within only 3 days

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

YOU (???) stopped this pension scam. It is not YOUR place to stop it. It is the job of the Govt (incl. its own agencies) to monitor itself to see that such scams do not occur / continue.

Let me assume for a moment that you are an "RTI activist". How did you USE RTI to stop this scam. (Or did you "mis"use RTI to stop this scam ?). Did you get information and what did you do with it ?

Sarbajit

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:56 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,
By using RTI, I have been able to stop illegal old age pensions (being
given to dead) to about 1 lakh beneficiaries. A lot of people may be
misusing RTI but a still larger number is using RTI for good cause.

On 10/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> RULE # 1:
>
> *RTI Act is not to be used, it is to be "mis"used.*

>
> This simple rule must be strictly followed if one is to achieve anything
> useful using RTI.
>
> Whenever you ask an "RTI activist" why they file RTIs and what they will do
> with the info (if they ever get it), the usual reply they give you is
> because the Govt "babus" are completely corrupt they will a) expose this
> information in the media b) file a PIL. Both these strategies are so hollow
> that it is no wonder that nothing substantial ever gets achieved.The real
> ways for an average citizen to use RTI to make a difference are
> counter-intuitive and firmly grounded in Rule # 1 as stated above.
>

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