Re: [HumJanenge] NGO "Haramis"

I humbly reiterate:

Decency is better part of candour

as much as

discretion is better part of valour(a la Shakespeare)

spm

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:03 AM, birendra verma <lprince33@gmail.com> wrote:

I personally feel that using abusive words is counter productive and
sort of invites a reaction, a repulse, thus defeating the very purpose
of critical overview of persons and organisations and tearing off
their masks. They are best avoided. But I vehemently disagree with the
widely held belief that one should not speak ill of the dead. Whether
what is being said is ill or an analysis of the personality and deeds
of a person or is only a fair assessment depends on the mental make up
of the person. In fact only after a person has rested his oars and
completed his journey can a complete picture emerge.
BK Verma

On 10/6/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kiran
>
> I have noted (carefully) your comments. The "H" term conveys precisely my
> "resentment" (or to put it better "my anger") in the matter. I view a
> specific set of  RTI activist NGOs (and this is with an open acknowledgment
> that there are also GOOD NGOs who are doing EXCELLENT work with selfless
> people under tough conditions) as "brood parasites" like the female common
> cuckoo who lays her eggs in nests made by others and take over the common
> spaces by pushing the rightful owners out.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:27 AM, kiran shaheen
> <kiranshaheen@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I agree with your right to express your resentment, sarabjit. My only
>> point
>> is we have more politically correct abuses or non parliamentarian
>> utterances
>> for the elements we may disapprove politically. The word 'Harami' or
>> 'Bastard' is a sexist word by all means and question the biological law of
>> reproduction. Don't Hum Janenge have more social responsibility than
>> others?
>>  Kiran
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Over the years many people have objected to my use of the term "harami"
>>> on
>>> this group (and its precursor - RTI_India).
>>> These late comers have no idea why we use this term.
>>>
>>> The terms "harami" is most definitely not "Parliamentary" for the reason
>>> that the languages it comes from are not the language of any Parliament
>>> of
>>> India. From Hindusthani and Arabic the terms simply means and is openly
>>> and
>>> widely understood to mean "thieving bastards".
>>>
>>> So when I say "NGO harami" it encompasses the entire class of parasites
>>> known as NGO who are destroying the RTI movement in India. The members of
>>> this class are  lazy (but clever) good for nothings and should be
>>> recognised
>>> and dealt with as such. If you see a thief cut off his hands, if you see
>>> an
>>> NGO harami cut off his tongue.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any doubts on this, I shall only give the example of late
>>> Rahul Mangaonkar and the shameless (and completely despicable) antics
>>> after
>>> his demise carried out by these NGO haramis in his name. Whenever I think
>>> of
>>> NGOs, Rahul's example always serves to remind me what haramis these NGOs
>>> are.
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kiran Shaheen
>>
>> I carry a torch in one hand, And a bucket of water in the other:
>> With these things I am going to set fire to Heaven,
>> And put out the flames of Hell, So that
>> voyagers to God can rip the veils, And see the real goal..............
>>                                                      By Rabia (Rabi'a
>> Al'Adawiyya)
>>
>>
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