Thank you Mr. Moudgil,
A very solid and realistic point of view.
I was despairing seeing all this personalities and ego bashing / self pampering going on.
Best Wishes,
Indipatriot
From: Manu Moudgil <moudgilmanu@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice
Dear all,
I support Mr Sarabjit in his view that Mr Arvind Kejriwal does not need to be monetarily supported. Though I object to the use of words like idiots and such by Mr Sarabjit for fellow members, I think he is right in his position that Mr Kejriwal has to defend himself in the court of law and his NGO also receives foreign funding (though I dont believe he is an intelligence operative of CIA or any other agency).
It is an accepted fact that the government action is a personal vendetta against him but I think he just needs moral support rather than monetary help. He has definitely done a lot for the RTI (even if not otherwise at least by creating awareness about it and handing out awards to people who are working in the field) but that does not mean he can't default. If he is right in his stand, the court would forego the dues, it's as simple as that.
Regards,
Manu Moudgil
Primary catalyst,
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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
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I support Mr Sarabjit in his view that Mr Arvind Kejriwal does not need to be monetarily supported. Though I object to the use of words like idiots and such by Mr Sarabjit for fellow members, I think he is right in his position that Mr Kejriwal has to defend himself in the court of law and his NGO also receives foreign funding (though I dont believe he is an intelligence operative of CIA or any other agency).
It is an accepted fact that the government action is a personal vendetta against him but I think he just needs moral support rather than monetary help. He has definitely done a lot for the RTI (even if not otherwise at least by creating awareness about it and handing out awards to people who are working in the field) but that does not mean he can't default. If he is right in his stand, the court would forego the dues, it's as simple as that.
Regards,
Manu Moudgil
Primary catalyst,
www.goimonitor.com
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
1) Arvind Kejrwal is still an IRS officer. The reasons why his resignation has not been accepted is very well known. Each and every year the govt (IT dept) updates the list of their employees (as required under section 4 of RTI Act). The URL is here and Arvind's name is on it [www.irsofficersonline.gov.in/content/Alphabetical_Index.pdf]
2) My question is what steps has Arvind taken to get his name deleted from this list ? Let him place these facts into the public domain.
3) About his being a foreign financed inteligence agent, there have been many posts on this in the archives of this group and RTI_India where specifics have been given.. The Magsaysay awards are well known to be CIA sponsorship. The Ashoka awards are from MI6.
4) Aruna Roy, Arvindf Kejriwal, Anna Hazare etc had hardly anything to do with RTI Act This is all their self generated media publicity which ill informed idiots like you keep repeating / circulating as the truth. The fact is that the RTI Act 2005 was drafted by Mr A.N. Tiwari and his team at DoPT with quite a bit of input from me and my co-mods like Mr Ashish Kumar - and was also based on the shortcomings of the HD Shourie draft and the FOI Act.
SarbajitOn Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:52 PM, USM Bish <usmbish@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:Col Khera is absolutely right out here. There is nothing
> Dear Col Khera
>
> I am truly shocked by your email.
>
written by him which is factually incorrect. Rest are his
views based on facts he stated. Nothing to be shocked about.
Arvind had tendered resignation in 2006. He had gone on study
>
> 1) With all this black money problem in the country, are you
> condoning that IRS officers should go on leave for extended
> periods and thereby block their replacements.
>
leave earlier to that. He has NOT been given/ taken any pay
since then. I do understand, IT is taxes on your physical
income, not perceived incomes by external agencies.
There are no vacancies blocked.
What is the source of this information ? This is not only
>
> 2) Arvind Kejriwal is a foreign financed intelligence
> operative with huge amounts of money at his disposal and
> gives lakhs of rupees as prizes. Why should we contribute to
> pay his IT demands ?
>
misinformation, it is possibly of malafide intent. Please do
not spread FUD on public lists.
Please read up. You are carrying coal to New Castle ! Please
>
> 3) What exactly has Arvind done for the RTI cause which is
> so extraordinary?
>
check up the history of the Delhi RTI Act 2001. Amongst the
principal players for RTI are Aruna Roy (NCPRI), Arvind
Kejriwal (Parivartan) and the Press Council of India who have
been active from the end of last decade. Whereas Hazare led
the way for the Maharashtra RTI Act, the above are responsible
for the Delhi Act. FYI, he was awarded Ramon Magsaysay Award
for Emergent Leadership in 2006, for activating RTI movement
at grassroot levels. The citation is here:
http://www.rmaf.org.ph/Awardees/Citation/CitationKejriwalArv.htm
There are no RSS code words anywhere in the mail written by
>
> PS: Kindly stop using RSS code words on this group - we are
> apolitical here
>
Col Khera, that I could see. What words are you referring to ?
Dr USM Bish
Bangalore
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