Re: [HumJanenge] Fraudulent USGBC and GBCI LEEDS Platinum , Gold etc Green Building Certificates

Please correct me if I am wrong - Institution of Engineers (India) is established under an Act of Parleament - I think it is etrusted with powers for certification of Engineers - Do we need another Bill for Engineers? - If there is any lacuna can it not be strengthened?

From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fraudulent USGBC and GBCI LEEDS Platinum , Gold etc Green Building Certificates

Dear sir 

Engineers bills is pending before the parliament , Once the bill is passed then their is a proposal to constitute Engineering council of india by the government and Professional engineer certification will be issued by the government based on several requirements it is Equivalent United states PE , Then all the professionals coming under the ambit of accountability , I have attended an seminar organised by central government few years back ,So many professional institutes and associations are not favour of this bill since they dont want standard procedure and accountablity 

hence the bill is pending before the parliament for several years 

ARS KUMAR B.E. CIVIL ENGG. LLB. MA JOURNALISM 

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Mukund Apte <mdapte@gmail.com> wrote:

 

      Dear Sir,

      Is it not common sense to know that dealing with Building Certificates must be dealt with by our Institution Of Engineers (India) to start with? CII could not know it, is it?

      With regards to all,

      ----Mukund Apte

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:08 AM, RATHINDRA PRASAD LAHIRI <rplahiri@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. N Vikramsimha ,
Trustee RTI study center & KRIA Koota ,
#12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road ,
Basvangudi,
Bangalore 560004.
Dear sir,
GBCI , an associte of USGBC conducts this examination.
Ido not know who has permitted to them to hold examination in in
India. Confederation of Indian Industries has made a MOU with them and
the latter promotes LEEDS Cerified like Platinum, Gold etc.,Green
buildings in India.The details of MOU is not know to me but CII's
Hyderabad office looks after it and the Chairman of this is Dr. Prem C
Jain, who is an Architect and owner of one Noida based Architecture
Firm. chairmanigbc@cii.in
Dr. Prem C. Jain,
Chairman ,
Indian Green Business Council,
Conferation of Indian Industry,
CII - Sohrabji Godrej Green Building Centre,
chairmanigbc@cii.in

and CMD,
Spectral Services Consultants Private Limited,
A - 107, Sector - 63 ,
Noida 201301.UP
cmd@septralservices .net

 USGBC and GBCI do not have any office in India and they operate
through CII or its branchoffice located at Hyderabad, India.. USGBC
and GBCI suck huge USD from India in the name of Examination and in
the name of Certification of USGBC LEEDS Green Building Certification
like Platinum, Gold etc.
I do not know whether COA knows about it. Iam a Civil Engineer from
IIT, Kharagpur, I do not have any knowledge of CAO.Only LEEDS AP(LEEDS
ACCREDITED PROFESSIONAL) Certifed person's association  is a must for
being Certified for LEEDS Platinum, Gold etc.
I do not know who permitted them to conduct it in our country.
The value of LEEDS AP Certification is Only LEEDS AP(LEEDS ACCREDITED
PROFESSIONAL) Certifed person's association  is a must for being
Certified for LEEDS Platinum, Gold etc. LEEDS Certified Platinum ,
Gold etc. certified buildings are marketed by big hotels and other
commercial and residential projects are marketed as Green Building ,
but as a matter of fact , there is hardly anything green at all.The
only disturbing thing it is draining out huge foreign exchange from
our country fraudulently.
I do not know whether The Architects Act Ammended  this.
The examination is conducted online and in India by some small agents
of USGBC , GBCI or any of their USA assigns .I have no idea whether
CII holds any coaching class in India.There is no campus or no
distance education programme. One has to  purchase USA authored
coaching guides to prepare for examination. The percentage of marks
required for passing LEEDS AP examination is 85%.
In the above I have given the details of address of the branch office
of CII, based in Hyderabad, who is having MOUs and promotes USGBC,
GBCI and LEEDS Green Certication like Platinum , Gold etc..I shall
give the addresses of USGBC and GBCI and their assigns in India with
whom USGBC and GBCI have arrangements for providing examination space,
computers etc.for on line examination. USGBC and GBCI , even though
they take $ 400.00 USD for just 2 hours examinated they get the
candidate to write in most horrible and polluted and contaminated
environment even they preach exactly the opposite in the name of green
building technologies. A  fraud is continually being perpetuated by
such multinationals taking we Indians as third grade people.
I am giving you from the knowledge I have. I am enclosing my internet
information.

"LEED is still a fairly new concept in India with less than 700
building registered. So unlike the US we do not have multiple
disciplines under LEED. There is only one exam which directly awards
you the LEED AP credentials but I understand that the American system
will be introduced in the International Green building congress at
Chennai in October.

The exam itself is not a thorough test of your design or construction
management skills in fact it does not have much to do with
architecture at all.

The purpose of the exam is to test your knowledge of the LEED rating
system along with your awareness of the environment and the impact of
building(s) to its surrounding eco-system.

Having said that there is nothing stopping you from getting the
American qualification which at this point in time is far more
comprehensive. You will get additional information on
http://www.usgbc.org/ and http://www.gbci.org/."

I am highly thankful and obliged to you for taking up such important issue.
Regards,
RPLAHIRI

Who conducts this exam , who permitted them to Conduct it in Our
Country Does COA know about it . Have They Accepted it . What is the
Value of this Certification in Our Country . has the The Architects
Act Ammended . Please Give Details. What is the Circulam , Who
approved it ? Whether there is any Distance education programme or is
it On Campus? Which university ? My God I Get more Questions
N vikramsimha ,Trustee RTI study center & KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir
M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

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      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte