Sarabjit,
Irrespective of the merits of the case (unless you disagree with Subramanium Swamy's writings which are uncontested), I have a problem with your frustrated and shrill writings which are both crass and profane to put it mildly.
Particularly, the use of hindi abuses leaves one feeling that you are intellectually defunct in putting forward your counter /viewpoint in a sage manner. This will be the death knell for your (our?) efforts as the aim stands totally obfuscated.
So - unless you can regain focus, these meaningless exchanges are really leading to animosity and ill will, which is no way of carrying the objective forward in a concerted manner.
Best'
Admiral Taneja
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:57:45 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] [media_monitor5] Re: The inside job
Dear Mr S. Kumar
Can you prove any of this ?
Feroze Gandhi's family are in possession of his birth certificate of 1912. On the basis of the certificate many scurrilous websites like www.nehrufamily.com have been shut down.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/relatives-complain-cong-works-to--stop-web--slander--on-feroze-gandhi-/14895/0
If chootiya (that is a mild slum word equivalent to asshole) so-called defenders of Hinduism and Narendra Modi keep agitating rubbish without any basis, and making up stories / facts as you go along, you are only weakening NaMo's cause.
You chootiyas know very well that the story first started out that Feroze Gandhi was the son of the Nawab Jehangir Khan of Junagadh. Then somebody pointed out that Jehangir Khan is the present Nawab of Junagadh. Then you chootiyas changed the story to the then Nawab of Junagadh had forcibly married this poor Parsi lady surnamed Ghandhy (first name unknown) after converting her to Islam. Then somebody pointed out that in 1912 (when Feroze was born) there was no Nawab of Junagadh - since the State was under a British Administrator. Then the VHP chootiya internet brigade altered their story to one Nawab Khan who was a "gentleman of Junagadh" (Shakespeare would be laughing) married ???? Gandhi and their studly son Feroze Khan (presumably the actor) used to deliver wine bottles to a (teetotaller) Nehru's ancestral home Anand Bhawan where a lonely nubile (and very hairy as per M.O.Mathai) Indira was just waiting to be spread after gulping it down (candy is dandy but liquor is quicker) by this handsome HINDU delivery boy. The inconvenient inconsistencies of Muslim Pathan Khan grocers delivering wine was glossed over (by making the delivery boy a young and Hindu Feroze) while Professor Mast Ram was writing this little novella to be sold at UP Roadways bus stands.
Heaven help Mr. Narendra Modi if he has to depend on VHP clowns (sorry chootiyas) like you to become PM.
BTW, have you read the IYC's counter novella about how NaMo couldn't perform on his wedding night so he is the perfect "mock husband" to replace MMS.
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Irrespective of the merits of the case (unless you disagree with Subramanium Swamy's writings which are uncontested), I have a problem with your frustrated and shrill writings which are both crass and profane to put it mildly.
Particularly, the use of hindi abuses leaves one feeling that you are intellectually defunct in putting forward your counter /viewpoint in a sage manner. This will be the death knell for your (our?) efforts as the aim stands totally obfuscated.
So - unless you can regain focus, these meaningless exchanges are really leading to animosity and ill will, which is no way of carrying the objective forward in a concerted manner.
Best'
Admiral Taneja
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:57:45 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] [media_monitor5] Re: The inside job
Dear Mr S. Kumar
Can you prove any of this ?
Feroze Gandhi's family are in possession of his birth certificate of 1912. On the basis of the certificate many scurrilous websites like www.nehrufamily.com have been shut down.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/relatives-complain-cong-works-to--stop-web--slander--on-feroze-gandhi-/14895/0
If chootiya (that is a mild slum word equivalent to asshole) so-called defenders of Hinduism and Narendra Modi keep agitating rubbish without any basis, and making up stories / facts as you go along, you are only weakening NaMo's cause.
You chootiyas know very well that the story first started out that Feroze Gandhi was the son of the Nawab Jehangir Khan of Junagadh. Then somebody pointed out that Jehangir Khan is the present Nawab of Junagadh. Then you chootiyas changed the story to the then Nawab of Junagadh had forcibly married this poor Parsi lady surnamed Ghandhy (first name unknown) after converting her to Islam. Then somebody pointed out that in 1912 (when Feroze was born) there was no Nawab of Junagadh - since the State was under a British Administrator. Then the VHP chootiya internet brigade altered their story to one Nawab Khan who was a "gentleman of Junagadh" (Shakespeare would be laughing) married ???? Gandhi and their studly son Feroze Khan (presumably the actor) used to deliver wine bottles to a (teetotaller) Nehru's ancestral home Anand Bhawan where a lonely nubile (and very hairy as per M.O.Mathai) Indira was just waiting to be spread after gulping it down (candy is dandy but liquor is quicker) by this handsome HINDU delivery boy. The inconvenient inconsistencies of Muslim Pathan Khan grocers delivering wine was glossed over (by making the delivery boy a young and Hindu Feroze) while Professor Mast Ram was writing this little novella to be sold at UP Roadways bus stands.
Heaven help Mr. Narendra Modi if he has to depend on VHP clowns (sorry chootiyas) like you to become PM.
BTW, have you read the IYC's counter novella about how NaMo couldn't perform on his wedding night so he is the perfect "mock husband" to replace MMS.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:25 AM, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dave,Are you denying the paternity of Feroz, born to Nawab Khan of Junagadh? A Muslim father and a Parsi son?Any vested interests to twist the matter?It is a different matter he was an astute Parliamentarian having brought out the Mundhra LIC scam.But his paternity cannot be denied and DNA could prove from known sources the Y-Chromosome continuity from Nawab Khan.From: vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in>
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Thank you Shirish Dave Ji. You are a truly objective person. Regards DevinderFrom: shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com>
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Subject: [media_monitor5] Re: [IAC#RG] The inside jobTo the best of my information, Feroz Gandhi was not Muslim and he was one of the best parliamentarian of his time. He was very well honored by all the opposition including Ram Manohar Lohia. He had been taken as Parsi by Parsi community for that I don't have any doubt. Let us not waste our time by creating a controversy on a person who was highly honored in his time. He had not black mailed Nehru. He was capable enough to make money lawfully, unlike his wife and other nehruvian successors.From: S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The inside jobPost: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" Exit: "indiaresists-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" Quit: "https://lists.riseup.net/www/signoff/indiaresists" Help: https://help.riseup.net/en/list-user WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in/Sarabjitji!!Again you are spreading false information about Feroz Gandhi. He is neither a Parsi nor Gandhi.1. Nawab Khan of Junagadh in Gujarat married Feroz's mother Ghandy, from Bharuch after converting her to Islam, and was running a grocery store in Allahabad. Feroz Khan was born to them and he was running errands for the Anand Bhavan needs where Indira was the only occupant with Jawaharlal mostly in the prisons. Indira was rusticated from Santiniketan by Rabindranath Tagore himself, when he found her in compromising situation with a German student.2. Feroz Khan and Indira became closer and in spite of objections from Kamla Nehru and Nehru himself, both went to a London Mosque, Indira converted to islam and took the name Maimunnah Begum and the Nikah was held in London. On way back they visited the ailing Kamla Nehru at Switzerland who was shocked at her changing religion and later died.3. Feroz Khan and Maimunnah Begum(Indira) returned to Delhi- Nehru was still in prison- and was met by Mahatma Gandhi, who too was shocked that Indira became a Muslim. He told them that they will not have a Political future with Islamic names and volunteered to adopt Feroz as his son and under affidavit signed by Gandhi, Feroz Khan was adopted by Mahatma Gandhi and took his surname Gandhi.THAT IS HOW GANDHI SURNAME ENTERED THE FAMILY OF NEHRU-s.4. Read M.O.Mathai's book available in the web for details how Feroz has been troubling Nehru frequently for money and had instructed Matthai not to allow him enter the cabin. Later Feroz went to Lucknow and settled there under National herald.5. Rajiv is the son sired by Feroz and his name should have been Rajiv Khan instead of Gandhi. However Sanjiv(name changed to Sanjay later after a crime in London) was sired by Muhammad Yunus in the absence of Feroz at Lucknow.6. Feroz came to limelight when he brought up the Mundhra LIC scam which cost TT Krishnamachari his Ministership, resigning voluntarily taking the responsibility unlike present UPA where Ministers and even PM refuse to meet the PAC shielding the criminals in megascams.7.There was no question of disposal of the body of Feroz in Fire Temple as he was born to a Muslim convert Ghandy, whose relatives are still Parsi-s in Mumbai.8. Rajiv neither is a Parsi, born of Muslim convert parents and later converted to Cathlolic Christianity adopting the name Roberto while marrying Antonia Albina Edwiga Maino aka Sonia Gandhi at Orbassano Church in Italy.Read the available literature/ news before posting such falsehoods. Feroz was a victim of circumstances, Nehru detesting him from beginning and Indira's heat towards him subsiding fast when others were available to her.From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The inside jobFeroz Gandhi died in New Delhi. He suffered a heart attack and was taken to the Willingdon Hospital (now Ram Manohar Lohia Hospital) where he expired. He was cremated by the Congress Party. Yashpal Kapoor and other arranged for the cremation (by Arya Samaj rites) - since the Parsis have no Tower of Silence at Delhi . Since nobody knew what to do with the ashes (Rajiv and Sanjiv had been brainwashed against their father), they were handed over to Feroze's Paris family who buried them at Allahabad. Feroze hardly had anyrhing to give away, he believed in living life to its full here on earth, so his Will would be of academic.interest. It is well known that he and Indira were separated for all practical purposes and couldn't stand to be near each other. So what is still left to be known ? At least Rajiv in later years acknowledged he was a Parsi (even if not a Zorastrian) , and some (not all) Parsis in India were proud to have a "Parsi" (ie. Persian) Prime Minister. SarbajitPost: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" Exit: "indiaresists-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" Quit: "https://lists.riseup.net/www/signoff/indiaresists" Help: https://help.riseup.net/en/list-user WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in/On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Sarabjit,Greetings.Thanks for elucidative and clear-headed narration. Many issues have been illuminated especially about Feroz's lineage and circumstances surrounding legality of his marriage.What remains of interest is circumstances surrounding his death, testamentary document, if any; which would state his instructions after his demise. Will often highlights family positions which otherwise is kept in privacy.I suppose he was unwell and was taken by wife to Kashmir, where he breathed his last. How were his last rites performed and was any opinion recorded etc.Feroz's application form for contesting election would also state some of his personal information.Thanks anyways for the lucid narration.best regards,-Joshi NM*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*__._,_.___
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