Dear Mr S Kumar
Please understand that this is not the foreign financed Wikipedia or Times of India which allows all kinds of unsupported rubbish to be printed.
Can you provide any evidence (which shall stand up in an Indian Court of law) for your preposterous claims about Feroze Gandhi/Ghandhy. If so please provide it.
1) The website www.nehrufamily.com where you have sourced most of this crap from has been shut down/suspended.
2) Before we proceed, and you proceed to lecture me about language used in slums and all Indians being equal etc etc, I hope you remember this quote of yours
3) FYI, Parsis are not cremated at Agiaries where their Sacred Fire (light) is worshipped. For Indian Parsis cremation is a prohibited act. Only recently have they been allowed burials where Towers of Silence dont exist.
Feroze was cremated at Nigambodh ghat in Delhi. Rajiv Gandhi did not light the pyre as is misreported - he was in Doon School at Dehradun and its mentioned in his class mates autobiography. Indira Gandhi gave the ashes to Ferozes sister Tehmina at Allahabad. Rajiv and Sanjiv scattered some of the ashes in the Sangam, the balance were buried in the Parsi cemetries at Allahabad and Surat. Parsi Anjuman's are so conservative on these issues in those days that no non-Parsi without both parents as Parsi would be allowed in their cemetries, its only now that some Parsis are recognising/allowing "half-breed" Parsis.
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/news/ie/daily/19980210/04150074.html
I have read Mr Mathai's books a great many time, and like all works of fiction it needs a suspension of belief to enjoy.
Why don't you refer to the part in the book where Mr. Mathai quotes G.D.Birla as praising Jawaharlal Nehru as the only Congress leader who did not borrow money from him unlike Gandhi, Vijay Lakshmi Pandit and Sardar Patel.
Why don't you quote Mr. Mathai who listed in great detail how Jawarharlal objected to serving of liquor and alcohol at state functions when even Sardar Patel indicated that serving liquor would make things easier with the foreigners who India needed to keep in good humour.
4) Since I am a much more experienced pracharak than you are,can you kindly provide me all the "available literature/news" in your knowledge. I note that you have consistently failed to back up your claims when I ask you to.
5) Do you deny the picture of this Arya Samaj marriage ceremony at Allahabad ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Dharm#Marriage_Validity_Controversies_.281938.E2.80.93.29
and can you provide the picture of their Muslim wedding which was supposedly published in London ?
FYI, Indira and Feroze wanted to get married to each other since 1935. The compromised with German (Frank Oberdorf) in ShantiNiketan story is concocted.
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211174
Sarbajit
Please understand that this is not the foreign financed Wikipedia or Times of India which allows all kinds of unsupported rubbish to be printed.
Can you provide any evidence (which shall stand up in an Indian Court of law) for your preposterous claims about Feroze Gandhi/Ghandhy. If so please provide it.
1) The website www.nehrufamily.com where you have sourced most of this crap from has been shut down/suspended.
2) Before we proceed, and you proceed to lecture me about language used in slums and all Indians being equal etc etc, I hope you remember this quote of yours
"It is true that Muslims mutiply like pigs littering all the way with four wives in the line and leaving the children to fend for themselves in the Ghettos, stealing and robbing to live."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political_analysts/message/337983) FYI, Parsis are not cremated at Agiaries where their Sacred Fire (light) is worshipped. For Indian Parsis cremation is a prohibited act. Only recently have they been allowed burials where Towers of Silence dont exist.
Feroze was cremated at Nigambodh ghat in Delhi. Rajiv Gandhi did not light the pyre as is misreported - he was in Doon School at Dehradun and its mentioned in his class mates autobiography. Indira Gandhi gave the ashes to Ferozes sister Tehmina at Allahabad. Rajiv and Sanjiv scattered some of the ashes in the Sangam, the balance were buried in the Parsi cemetries at Allahabad and Surat. Parsi Anjuman's are so conservative on these issues in those days that no non-Parsi without both parents as Parsi would be allowed in their cemetries, its only now that some Parsis are recognising/allowing "half-breed" Parsis.
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/news/ie/daily/19980210/04150074.html
I have read Mr Mathai's books a great many time, and like all works of fiction it needs a suspension of belief to enjoy.
Why don't you refer to the part in the book where Mr. Mathai quotes G.D.Birla as praising Jawaharlal Nehru as the only Congress leader who did not borrow money from him unlike Gandhi, Vijay Lakshmi Pandit and Sardar Patel.
Why don't you quote Mr. Mathai who listed in great detail how Jawarharlal objected to serving of liquor and alcohol at state functions when even Sardar Patel indicated that serving liquor would make things easier with the foreigners who India needed to keep in good humour.
4) Since I am a much more experienced pracharak than you are,can you kindly provide me all the "available literature/news" in your knowledge. I note that you have consistently failed to back up your claims when I ask you to.
5) Do you deny the picture of this Arya Samaj marriage ceremony at Allahabad ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi_Dharm#Marriage_Validity_Controversies_.281938.E2.80.93.29
and can you provide the picture of their Muslim wedding which was supposedly published in London ?
FYI, Indira and Feroze wanted to get married to each other since 1935. The compromised with German (Frank Oberdorf) in ShantiNiketan story is concocted.
http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211174
Sarbajit
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:34 PM, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sarabjitji!!Again you are spreading false information about Feroz Gandhi. He is neither a Parsi nor Gandhi.1. Nawab Khan of Junagadh in Gujarat married Feroz's mother Ghandy, from Bharuch after converting her to Islam, and was running a grocery store in Allahabad. Feroz Khan was born to them and he was running errands for the Anand Bhavan needs where Indira was the only occupant with Jawaharlal mostly in the prisons. Indira was rusticated from Santiniketan by Rabindranath Tagore himself, when he found her in compromising situation with a German student.2. Feroz Khan and Indira became closer and in spite of objections from Kamla Nehru and Nehru himself, both went to a London Mosque, Indira converted to islam and took the name Maimunnah Begum and the Nikah was held in London. On way back they visited the ailing Kamla Nehru at Switzerland who was shocked at her changing religion and later died.3. Feroz Khan and Maimunnah Begum(Indira) returned to Delhi- Nehru was still in prison- and was met by Mahatma Gandhi, who too was shocked that Indira became a Muslim. He told them that they will not have a Political future with Islamic names and volunteered to adopt Feroz as his son and under affidavit signed by Gandhi, Feroz Khan was adopted by Mahatma Gandhi and took his surname Gandhi.THAT IS HOW GANDHI SURNAME ENTERED THE FAMILY OF NEHRU-s.4. Read M.O.Mathai's book available in the web for details how Feroz has been troubling Nehru frequently for money and had instructed Matthai not to allow him enter the cabin. Later Feroz went to Lucknow and settled there under National herald.5. Rajiv is the son sired by Feroz and his name should have been Rajiv Khan instead of Gandhi. However Sanjiv(name changed to Sanjay later after a crime in London) was sired by Muhammad Yunus in the absence of Feroz at Lucknow.6. Feroz came to limelight when he brought up the Mundhra LIC scam which cost TT Krishnamachari his Ministership, resigning voluntarily taking the responsibility unlike present UPA where Ministers and even PM refuse to meet the PAC shielding the criminals in megascams.7.There was no question of disposal of the body of Feroz in Fire Temple as he was born to a Muslim convert Ghandy, whose relatives are still Parsi-s in Mumbai.8. Rajiv neither is a Parsi, born of Muslim convert parents and later converted to Cathlolic Christianity adopting the name Roberto while marrying Antonia Albina Edwiga Maino aka Sonia Gandhi at Orbassano Church in Italy.Read the available literature/ news before posting such falsehoods. Feroz was a victim of circumstances, Nehru detesting him from beginning and Indira's heat towards him subsiding fast when others were available to her.
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