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Parallel work is going on privately in many IAC forums/sub-groups to present our solutions for many of India's real problems.
Sarbajit
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
If its possible to outline the areas of serious debate in the
country,and then prepare concept paper on each with SWOT analysis,
and throw the issues,in prioritised manner to the country people,more
enlightened(and less heated) discourse will follow.
Its important for all sections of society,country wide to be well
informed of the issues,so as to distinguish between hype and hope,and
between lopsided thinking and holistic approach.
Shockingly a simple looking system's approah to address the complex
issues is eschewed in favour of meandering and meaningless criss-cross
chat.
Decisions need to be taken using creative thinking processes(say',as
advocated by Edward de Bono,in his ten principles,famously called
DATT(Direct Attention Thinking Tools).Pl google and get a hang of the
idea missing hitherto with most,if not all.
There also is need for the people to be aware of the fallacies used by
politicos,specially the more adept legal luminaries,inbeguiling and
bewitching the largely gullible masses.Pl google and understand what
has happened through millenia,is now happening at unprecedented
scale..
The current issue is:Fiscal
deficit,virtually signalling bankruptcy,on account of populist
schemes,while showing,still,developmental ethos.
There is no research on KNIs(Key National
Indicators),as,in fact the concept itself is alien to the State and
its most famous apparatus:Planning Commission of India. I know for
sure as my detailed discussions with high and mighty in that
organisation(done during my doctoral thesis work) have frevealed
various faultlines there.There is no research as what optimisation
model,or specific outcome-oriented governance,that organisation is
aiming for all these decades.
Politicians are free to decide on freebees(public
money for purely political gains in the garb of so called public
interest),as also on subsidies,and nature of reservations etc. What is
the best strategic approach to subserve the larger public interest--as
discerned through enlightened debate/discourse,not merely in
Parliament,but at wider level,to take care of "participative nature of
democreacy,on place of representative nature,wronly adhered to so
far--is just not known to any one .NOT KNOWN TO ANY ONE.
Can this forum,through crowd sourcing technique come
up with greater enlightenment of the people?
Surely,it can. It should.Where stuck up for clarity get
info through RTI,or else through open sources.Even a good
approximation will be better than the current befuddling/confusing
picture.
Pl don't get distracted in worthless directions.Let
trivia not subsume precious energy of the actvist lot.Let issues,not
personalities,be the focus of discourse. It shouldn't be a forum to
give vent to some pent up feelings,but to make systematic contribution
to the eternal philosophy: Sarve Bhavantu Sukhina,Sarve Santu
Niramaya.Its articulated in all faiths/constitutions,in some way or
the other,and is ingrained in Indian psyche,very specially.
India resists.India understands.India advances.
The "shine","incredible","outperforms","dominates"---all could follow
as natural corollaries.As day folllows the night.
As regards
corruption issue is concerned,a document sent to the Standing
Committee of the Parliament on LPB could be shared,on getting green
signal from the Forum Administrator.It will pleasanty surprise all,as
its the culmination of vast research and realistic understanding of
the present and potential scenario,and collaborative thinking of large
number of ACTUAL practioners/professional in the field.
spm
IPS DGP retd
BE MBA PhD
919841282324
>> *At last wisdom has dawned on Sarabjit now to deviate from the
On 4/4/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr S.Kumar
>
> Are you a Hindu that you are so concerned ?
> I have publicly asked you to answer 2 simple questions, to which I am still
> awaiting the answer:-
>
> 1) Are you a Hindu ? Yes or No.
> 2) If, yes, what is your God ? ______
>
> Answer these then we shall see.
>
> That I am a Hindu is not in doubt What is in doubt is if people like you
> are Hindus and if what you propagate is Hinduism !!
> If you are a Hindu then I am definitely NOT a Hindu !.
>
> I don't know any Sukla Sen or any Dr. Sarkar. Who the F*** are these people
> and why should I bother with them (or you) ? Are they Hindus ?
>
> Insofar as Gujarat being a shining example of development is concerned, it
> is all done at the cost of other parts of India with hugely borrowed and
> leveraged funds coming in as "equity" (ie. hot money) via Mauritius and not
> as debt. If the stock market collapses today and is not bailed out
> repeatedly by rest of India, Gujarat will be a country of widows. The
> capital account problem is caused today by Gujaratis deserting the stock
> market in synchronised droves by dubious reports published from Canada and
> buying up real estate and gold.
>
> If rest of India cuts off (cheap) coal, power and water to Gujarat then we
> shall see how Modi Shining story will work. If India withdraws its
> subsidised Central army / navy / airforce how long will "peace loving"
> Gujaratis survive against Pakistani Muslim hordes just waiting to rape
> Gujarat's daughters ?
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:40 PM, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> fissiparious and destructive anti-Hindu ideals propagated earlier.*
>> **
>> *Sukla Sen, Dr.Sarkar, Sarabjit all desire to be categorized as
>> pessimists beating themselves and their own Society for its ills rather>> *
>> than promoting positive thinking and spell out clearly what is to be
>> done.
>> **
>> *Part of the Country like Gujarat have already proved that going with
>> begging bowls to West are gone and they are coming to us for business.>> and so on.*
>> But
>> UPA has proved a total disaster by several moves like signing one sided
>> 123
>> in a flight in total secrecy without informing even the Cabinet,
>> introducing multi-million programmes like NREGA or FODD SECURITY or
>> others
>> to fritter away the limited resources available, and these funds landing
>> in
>> several scams like 2G AND THE PM EVEN REFUSES TO APPEAR BEFORE A ONE
>> SIDED
>> PAC WITH CHACKO AS ITS HEAD- NOMINEE OF SONIA TO PREVENT TRUTH COMING OUT
>> **
>> *If Raja, the main mega-scamster in 2G is not allowed to depose before
>> the PAC, obviously UPA has skeletons in its cupboards, that might spill>> POlitician has been exposed.*
>> out
>> undesirable details that might expose the real Congress and the multiple
>> scams. The World has already got the details of the multimillions stashed
>> abroad and has exposed only very small such account holders and no
>> **
>> *Perhaps more details would come out and many Politicians are already
>> shaky whether to stay on in this Country or flee to Safe havens and take>> refufe like Fuji Mori or others.*
>>
>> *From:* Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> *To:* indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:04 PM
>> *Subject:* [IAC#RG] India Broke
>>
>> Forget India Shining, India Rising, Incredible India and all those other
>> glorious feelgood dreams of India as worlds' #2 superpower after China to
>> which some IronMan or IronLadywill lead us.
>>
>> The fact of the matter is that India is broke, ie Bharat is kadka.
>>
>> http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/two-pms-a-countdown-to-financial-crisis/article4577727.ece?ref=sliderNews
>>
>> The only way out is SEVERE AUSTERITY MEASURES and BELT TIGHTENING NOW
>> (before it is too late and we turn into a basket case like Italy or
>> Greece).
>>
>> Important decisions which should be taken NOW - like borrowing from the
>> World Bank, IMF when credit is STILL AVAILABLE and India is not yet a
>> basket case have to be taken NOW.
>>
>> Somebody of impeccable integrity must ensure that the money is not
>> SQUANDERED AWAY on POPULIST schemes but spent on the vital INFRASTRUCTURE
>> India needs so badly.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>> National Convenor
>> India Against Corruption
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