[HumJanenge] Re: Why every "active" member of this group is a moron

Firstly I disagree that we need a LokPal as is being proposed.

Secondly, There is as yet no official procedure for anyone
other than those 5 members of the public to be involved
at any stage.

I have no intention of going on hunger strike or drafting a Bill of
my own (or wasting my time).. I would gladly review any
effort by anyone who takes up your offer.

Sarbajit

On Apr 11, 11:58 am, Sant Mathur <santmat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbjitji and other Members,
> I'm endeavouring to put up my version of the Bill under holistic
> anti-corruption philosophy,as part of omnibus ADMINISTRATIVE REFORMS
> process,something that has been done by be in various capacities for long.
> We'll now better concentrate on offering a TRULY workable Bill that would
> pass muster with people holding diverse and even conflicting opinions.Very
> convincing line of arguments,buttressed with stats/facts,collected with due
> diligence,will help achieve the aim.Working passionately and in highly
> focussed manner lets all
> JUS DO IT
> and DO IT SUCCESSFULLY AND TIMELY.
> Wouldn't we better collaborate as a an interested smaller group and
> present the Draft to the Forum for discussion and then finalisation as the
> Forum's contribution?
> Maybe everyone doesn't have great experience in drafti=ng a legislation but
> some sort of support could surely be extended.
> The interested members may kindly liaise with me through mail or
> telephonically.
> 919841282324
> santmat...@gmail.com (already known through this mail itself)
> We'll, I believe, now onwards, use our combined energies in constructiuve /
> positive manner only.
> Its true,let me assure everyone, that our combined effort and NOT what has
> so far, passed on as "alternative drafts" will be creating HISTORY.I only
> wish to reiterate the need to avoid internal dissension on trivial and
> irrelevant issues please.
> Lets create and be a part of LASTING HISTORY.
> Time meter has already begun.
> S P Mathur
> IPS DGP retd
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 8:14 AM, sarbajit roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Abhijit
>
> > My email was not meant for you. Obviously we dont want our
> > non-"activist" members to respond to chainmail. The recent spate of
> > chainmail to this group circulated by motivated activists and the
> > subsequent discussion being a good example.
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > On Apr 11, 7:35 am, Abhijit Mehta <abhi...@abhijitmehta.com> wrote:
> > > Really !!!
> > > Now respond to chain emails?
> > > P.S: If i am going to be without by not forwarding the chain email.I must
> > have done something right.
> > > Regards
>
> > > Abhijit Mehta
> > > The Best Is Yet To Come
> > > God Bless
>
> > > On 11-Apr-2011, at 7:59 AM, Sarbajit Roy wrote:
>
> > > > Dear Members
>
> > > > Precisely 24 hours ago, our very learned member Mr. Utpal Sen sent the
> > email below.
> > > > As desired by him many member have forwarded the email, we have tracked
> > at least 7 members who forwarded this email from our group's website - and
> > there must be many more who did the same from their email package.
>
> > > > Personally I feel amazed that our hardcore RTI activists members (the
> > brainiest species on the face of this planet) did not immediately disabuse
> > Mr Sen or call him a lunatic or inform him that he should stop listening to
> > his Chinese brainwashers and use instead our glorious Shastric calendars
> > where the same "phenomena" occurs about once in 7 years - the next phenomena
> > taking place in July 2016.
>
> > > > Sarbajit
>
> > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM, utpal sen <tap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Dear All.
>
> > > > July 2011 Calendar
>
> > > > Don't want to mess up my feng shui!
>
> > > > This year, July has 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays. This happens
> > > > once every 823 years. This is called money bags. So, forward this to
> > > > your friends and money will arrive within 4 days. Based on Chinese
> > > > Feng Shui the one who does not forward 20 People..... will be without
> > > > money. Not taking any chance !!!
>
> > > > July 2011
>
> > > > Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
> > > > 1 2
> > > > 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
> > > > 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
> > > > 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
> > > > 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
> > > > 31
>
> > > > On 4/9/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dear Mathre
>
> > > > > From the facts before you, the best you could conclude was that I
> > have
> > > > > removed AT LEAST ONE MInister.
>
> > > > > (I have actually got rid of 2). I got rid of both of them in under 2
> > > > > months.
>
> > > > > On your point about the 42 year delay in Parliament, ask yourself
> > > > > simply 1 question.
>
> > > > > In 1972 A Congress party Law Minister Shanti Bhushan piloted the
> > > > > Lokpal Bill and failed.
> > > > > Today 42 years later the same corrupt Congress through their 73 year
> > > > > old brain dead ventriloquist dummy expects the pubic to believe that
> > > > > the same Shanti Bhsuihan is the one to draft the Bill.? This is all
> > > > > stage managed and it is a sad reflection on the brainwashed citizenry
> > > > > of this country who will swallow any garbage given to them as
> > > > > tranquilisers to keep them quiet.
>
> > > > > Sarbajit
>
> > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mathre Rangarajan <
> > ranga...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> Dear Sarbjit Roy,
>
> > > > >> I fully agree and command you that you have been able to get rid of
> > ONE
> > > > >> currupt minister - What about others? It is known every minister
> > including
> > > > >> Chief Mister is currupt (especially so in Karnataka). We need a law
> > to get
> > > > >> rid of all currupt with out needing to wage a war in each and every
> > case.
> > > > >> Unfortunately there is absolutely no deterrent what so ever - the
> > currupt
> > > > >> boldly say you may go ahead and prosecute (if you can), it takes a
> > decade
> > > > >> or
> > > > >> more to punish the guilty that too with a paltry fine of few rupees
> > or a
> > > > >> small sentence and all the ill gotton wealth is safely with them to
> > enjoy
> > > > >> pepetually.
>
> > > > >> Secondly you said that Sri Anna Hazary's movement is illigal and
> > > > >> unconstitutionnal and he is blackmailing - Parliament is there to
> > make law
> > > > >> -
> > > > >> So why is it taking that your Parleament to even consider the law
> > for 42
> > > > >> years (it is refusing to consider as every parlimentarian is against
> > it),
> > > > >> and if this movement were not there it would take another 42 years
> > or more
> > > > >> to consider such a law.
>
> > > > >> God help India.
>
> > > > >> mathre rangarajan