Re: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC Habibullah's corrupt decision on Narmada Dam

Hi All

I am not the moderator of this group. I "own" 2 other RTI groups -
[RTI_India-YG] and [RTI_India-GG]. I only moderate the latter one.

With the combining of the mailing lists of India's 3 largest Yahoo RTI
groups, this group can certainly lay claim to covering the RTI arena
of the entire country.

For the things you want to address - ie. the low level stuff,
rtiindia.org is doing a great job, and I also participate there.

Sarbajit

On 12/1/10, Kuldip Gyaneswar <kuldipgyaneswar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Mahendra,
>
> Many thanks for opposing the discussion. Please be ready to get a very
> dramatic mail from the moderators justifying their word and language. (which
> i have always received in reply)
>
> Nevertheless we should stop these kind of discussion where personalised
> attacks are becoming frequent and now obscene language is being used. May be
> the moderator who also claims to be the software architect of this group
> come out with a customised firewall to weed out things.
>
> I agree with your mail. And as I have always said, the commissioners are
> just a drop in the ocean of RTI. A minor percentage of the cases are dealt
> by them. whereas millions of cases have been disposed by the public
> authorities at different tiers. Let us discuss them and see how they these
> applications can be made effective in terms of framing right question at the
> right time to the right person.
>
> But this group seems to be just worried about its mailing list and the
> former CCIC and one IC only. Do they cover the entire RTI arena of the
> country?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kuldip
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Mahendra Kumar Gupta
> <mkgupta1952@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I wonder this platform discussing dirty issues than discussing the RTI.
>> Day in and day out, some members have starting using borderline language
>> and
>> defamatory language raising all type of attributins and made this blog to
>> abuse any body without sharing responsibility or suggesting ways to
>> improve. Just finding fault with Shri Wajahat Habibullah, Shir Shailesh
>> Gandhi and others will not help the matterrs and we will loose large chunk
>> of members.
>>
>> I pray that YESU to give good sense to all of us. We r ignoring good work
>> done by the former CCIC and being done by Shri Shaijesh Gandhi and v r
>> just
>> seeing the dark side of the issue. We all shld know that how Mr. Wajahat
>> has forced the DoPT to remove the statement from its website tht notings r
>> not covered under rti act? Let us introspect that if v r appointed IC,
>> will v b able 2 do better in t face of govt resistane. (However, no body
>> is
>> going to appoint us). Gone r the days when v can chant "koi nrap ho hame
>> kaa haani". Now, we are dependent on d govt for every thing from womb to
>> tomb. I m not advocating that the ICs or Judges should consider this
>> aspect
>> but only stating reality of lile.
>>
>> An Hon'ble member has written that when all the decisions were available
>> on
>> the CIC's website, why a decision was taken to upload all the decision?
>> Rightly, all the decisions were not uploaded at that time but even after
>> the
>> decision in the meeting, the decisions taken in Oct. or probabliy earler
>> also by Shri A N Tiwari as checked in the last week of Oct. 10 were not
>> uploaded on the website though the decision was taken at his behest, This
>> has followed after I sent an Email to Shri A N Tiwari and also to the
>> rti4empow..yg and on Dwarka Forum blogs. Every thing is on record but fail
>> to understand why some members ignore the shortcomings of others and
>> target
>> only the present CCIC and one IC.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Kuldip Gyaneswar <
>> kuldipgyaneswar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> where has the discussion gone? thngs have been blown out of proportion..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Abhimanyu
>>> <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> members plz stop this nonsense
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <
>>>> dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All
>>>>> It is some thing unusual, a challange to the male society by
>>>>> the so called Lesbians.
>>>>> It is a challange to the social values, a society in which
>>>>> husband & wife and children live. It is also a challenge to
>>>>> motherhood, by Lesbians.
>>>>> There would be no more child birth in Lesbian women.
>>>>> It is a challenge to human values, philosophy of karma
>>>>> theory of give & take, share love affection.
>>>>> As seema misra wrote:
>>>>> Proud to be called a FEMINIST LESBIAN LAWYER.
>>>>> She said Good bye to all those. She also have no intention
>>>>> of interacting anymore with obscene men.
>>>>> Seema Misra also dislike many more men.
>>>>> Is it not hatred to the men hood ?
>>>>> May be that Seema had a bad experience with male society.
>>>>> As she is a Hindu(if not converted to other religion), on
>>>>> every birth, one has to carry Prarabdh Karma.
>>>>> She can can not circumvent the karma theory of give & take.
>>>>> May be that she do not want children.
>>>>> But may be when she along with her lesbian friend get
>>>>> older, she may need some one to help her in their old age.
>>>>> In Indian Society every family want male child to run the
>>>>> family.
>>>>> But many families have only female child, but they accept
>>>>> the truth and remain happy till end of their life and if they get a
>>>>> good son in law, they still feel happy.
>>>>> I do not know, how other members of this group accept what
>>>>> Seema Mishra has said. I do not want that overnight seema may change
>>>>> her decision, but I want to share only my views and experience, which
>>>>> I gained by meeting more and more lesbians during my stay in western
>>>>> countries.
>>>>> God may bless Seema Mishra
>>>>> Dr JN Sharma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/10, Ashok Kumar <imaka@in.com> wrote:
>>>>> > In today's world where emancipated women are rubbing shoulders with
>>>>> > "obscene" men, demands for special courtesies/considerations are
>>>>> genuinely
>>>>> > out of place. The obscene men should be taken headon. Original
>>>>> message
>>>>> > From:"sroy 1947"< sroy1947@gmail.com >Date: 30 Nov 10
>>>>> 17:21:42Subject: Re:
>>>>> > [HumJanenge] CIC Habibullah's corrupt decision on Narmada DamTo:
>>>>> > humjanenge@googlegroups.comLady Macbeth: "OUT damn spot, OUT I say
>>>>> !!Another
>>>>> > brilliant legal analysis1) That the NCPRI are the biggest F****rs of
>>>>> the RTI
>>>>> > movement2) That they dumped their load (hereinafter called "wad")
>>>>> intoCIC's
>>>>> > official email ID.3) That CIC dumped the aforesaid wads (after
>>>>> suitable hand
>>>>> > manipulations)upon other agencies of Govt.4) That the manipulated
>>>>> > wads
>>>>> were
>>>>> > conveyed in envelopes5) That another name for envelope is condom6)
>>>>> That
>>>>> > hence I have reason to suspect CIC to be a condom vending machinefor
>>>>> the
>>>>> > NCPRI.QEDOn Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:34 PM, seema misrawrote:> Proud to
>>>>> be
>>>>> > called a FEMINIST LESBIAN LAWYER.>
>>>>> > Good bye . have no intention of interacting anymore with obscene
>>>>> men.>
>>>>> > Seema Misra>Dear humjanenge! Get Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email
>>>>> ID
>>>>> > now!
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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