Thursday, December 2, 2010

Reply II: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts

Dear All,
 
Despite, all of us claiming ourselves as self proclaimed, self styled RTI Activists, be it High-end, Mid-end, Low-end or Hard Core, Medium Core or Soft Core activism, we, neither together by solidarity, nor by individual excellence, have been able to ensure that every public authority fulfills their obligation under section 4 of RTI act 2005, which should have been with 120 days after enactment of that Act, even after about 5 & 1/2 years after enctment of that Act.
We have, just as in any movement it occurs, derelicted in our duty that we enjoined ourselves,  by an act of volition & not by compulsion to reaffirm our(every citizen's in any democracy) right to information that is by axiom is inherent , human & fundamental right of every citizen in any democracy, reaffirmed by the Apex Court of India in  Raj Narain vs State of U.P> & Peoples Union for Civil Liberties vs Union of India & the Unbiversal declaration of Human Rights by the UN.
 
Instead we stray & quarrel over issues that should well be ignored just as a blinkered horse does, in its stride.
 
Unless we ensure that every public authority discloses  chirefly the following, RTI will remain elusive as it is today.
 

A.    As per section 4(ii) of RTI Act 2005, please inform the powers, duties & responsibilities of the persons working as functionaries of Public Authority.

 

B.    As per section 4(iii) of RTI Act 2005, please inform the procedure to be followed by the persons working as functionaries of Public Authority in decision making process, channels of supervision for them in discharge of their duties & decisions by them in that process, their accountability for acts & omissions by them in discharge of their duty as functionaries of Public Authorities.

 

C.    In the information about their accountability for acts & omissions by them in discharge of their duties as functionaries of Public Authority, should contain the following information too which is concomitant of the term accountability :

 

1.     The hierarchical functionary/ies who is/are empowered to initiate disciplinary action as per the departmental disciplinary procedure, in case of these functionaries are accused of,

 

a.     Violating the Fundamental & Human Rights of Citizens of India e.g. showing disrespect to, use of abusive language, signs of disrespect, discourteous behavior, use of physical force, derision, mockery, innuendos behaving in an accentuated manner e.g. show of anger, contempt, speaking in an inflected voice, demeaning, snide remarks etc.

 

b.     Acting ultra vires (beyond allowed empowerment limits) in discharge of their functions & exercise of powers vested with them.

 

c.     For selective application of rule, exception in application of rules, disparate application of rules, abuse of authority to favour one to the detriment of another, transgression of authority, trespassing the powers vested with a hierarchical functionary, failure to implement laws rules, favouritism, nepotism in application of laws etc.,

 
 
 
Regards,
WEDS

From: Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005 <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>; humjanenge@googlegroups.com; humjanenge@yahoogroups.co.in; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; rti4emp yahoo <rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 15:24:00
Subject: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts


Mr Roy,
If you are considered a  high-end RTI activist,then I will gladly bid goodbye to the RTI groups.BTW,before you pass judgement,I would suggest you ask the people who are on the Group (and VERY REAL people,believe me,L because I have met or spoken telephonically to many of them) as to whether I contribute positively or not.
Hardcore doesn't imply licence to kill(with rude words) it implies a deep commitment ,and I think we will have to put to the vote whether your commitment is deeper than that of the  the next man/woman.
I have witnessed your personal attacks on this Group on people,with specific reference to Mr Rejimon.For a long period in the middle ,I did not come across your posts.You have,however,returned,and you are spewing venom most of the time,
I request the moderators of the Groups on which Mr Roy is a member,to take me off those Groups if I also figure in those lists.All except rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com The rest of you,please carry on with your Group of high-enders!
Best of luck.
Urvi Sukul Singh
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From: "sroy1947" <sroy1947@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 2:59 PM
To: "HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: "Judge Uncle Syndrome" in the High Courts

> Dear Ms Singh
>
> This is a group for hard=core RTI activists. Quite obviously ladies
> with weak constitutions are not up to digesting alot of what is posted
> to this group and most of which is quite frankly nausea inducing
> concerning the rampant corruption in the Info Commissions and the
> judiciary..
>
> I concur that a group like rti4empowerment@yahoogroups is the only
> group which will suit your delicate temperament. The moderator there
> is really scraping the bottom of the barrel if he permits posts from
> you and RSingh631 etc to his members (somebody else has already shown
> that half the member list over there is fake).
>
> PS: If you read the first post in this thread, you will find that it
> was not I who raised this issue/attack but the Law Commission of
> India.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> Urvi Sukul Singh wrote:
>> Mr Roy,
>> You suggest action against people making suggestions yet  your language and
>> the tenor of you mails is absolutely unbearable at times.Time someone took
>> action against you.Most of what one has read over the last few weeks is a
>> load of rubbish,with you a regular participant.
>> I have requested being taken off all groups other than
>> rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.Kindly comply.Otherwise,till I get the mails,if
>> I feel the need I will reply.
>> Urvi Sukul Singh
>> PS I find this attack on the judiciary very unseemly.
>

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