Re: [IAC#RG] URGENT: Important group notice

Dear Hemant

2 other moderators of this list could not decide if your email should be posted so it was forwarded to me.

You are 26 years old. I am almost twice your age and I suspect Mr. S.D Sharma and Ms. Shama Zaidi may be almost 3 times your age.

You represent the youth of India for this list and we represent maturity and experience. I am very glad that you acknowledge that over your long membership in our lists you have imbibed some new knowledge and I hope you continue to do so.

I am not getting into the content of your email and I don't think anyone really should..Your email is an example of the collective frustration of ordinary citizens of India.  We, the old fools, were all young fools / idealists at some point of time in our youth. All of us have thereafter contributed very productively to India and Society by channeling our anger, and are sure that you will also do so in course of time - starting now.

You can be an example of a new way of out-of-the-box thinking which is unfettered by the standard solutions being offered to youth by the glossily packaged Aaamir Khans and Aam Aadmi Parties of this world.
 
There is nothing wrong with being a fanatic - every cause is alive if there is 1 fool prepared to fight for it

PS: I, Mr Sharma and Ms. Zaidi are all super domain experts on what ails India, but the problems are too deep for facile solutions.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:

I am certain for your views are never being endorsed by secular community and relentless demands for more privileges are being put ahead by secular leaders. Ms Zaidi, can you please mention why there is illiteracy in women of secular community? animal like behavior treatment of secular woman, I have closely observed such communities, who suppresses their 50% of their populations views, freedoms, ambitions, rights and forced slave dictations on them. I am sure understanding your situation, you are not in any position even to represent your opinions in front of your leaders and my explanation maybe well waste of words.

I suppose, if you are against any privilege for secular caste, can you oppose shariat court? will you pray in a madrasa with men? will secular community have a sense of equality with hindu counterparts? will secular govt. employees agree to have two child policy? Will secular society will ever feel INDIAN in heart? Will secular society feel at ease when some strong actions have to be taken against the nuisance peoples (read pakistan and kashmiris)? Does your son stands up during national anthem at least as a sign of respect to nation? (yes, it may be made for bengal and blah blah, but it is an symbol for uniqueness of Indian identity and nationality)

Keeping aside anything which divides India, secular leader and society does not has a efficient leadership or a political front, and vote to only choice they have, Indian Worst enemy "Congress Party", who are destroying Bharat for last 60 years, though I say 100 years.

I wish, each person on this list, should have to fight this war of corruption which is present in governance, justice, society, religion and of course on spiritual level till one wins. File RTI, publish these results in press, put to shame these prevalent corrupted practices in front of common public, on individual basis. Let us be ninja or soldiers, acting independently causing maximizing damages to such corrupted policies. 

Each son is born from a mother, such mother is a failure, who cannot teach her son respect for females, respect for his wife, who loves her daughters and daughters in laws. Your ranting about inequality, is a shame to your womanhood, who fails to get rights and speaks only about the presence of inequality. The main question is WHY WOMEN ARE MAIN ENEMY OF WOMEN?

Our children should not say that the deteriorated condition that they will be facing as part of inactivity or only pen swordmanship of us. ( I am 26yrs old and I say this to my older generation quiet often).

I am not a HIndutva person but I am a person, who understand Hindu "religion" as class of wisdom and spiritual satisfaction. And to declare, I never go to temples or pray, nor I am a member of any organization. I am a plain hindu who believes in having good karma for any god to judge me for going to hell. (pretty much I know I am going to hell)

@ SD Sharma, we cannot have people who use the word "secular" for hiding their agendas, their communities are not matured to voice their opinion on any goddamn subject except jihad and inequality (they are supposed to be facing). Have we ever heard, a secular person standing in their community and speaking of "economics" "love""women rights""science"(except that used to manufacture destructive nuisance). I am yet to find such person, (I am damn sure she will point to abdul kalam...) . Then one person of secular community find a list like these and begin opposing a brief discussion. I am member of this mailing list from a really long time, we had many violent, to the point discussions, verbal wars etc.. you can ask Mr. Roy, his frictions with MK gandhi, Sharma and some times even me, but always all the parties involved learned something. Monothesit should understand, change is only constant in the universe, be rigid in one situation and you are broken before you know. And you should understand what problems are existing in our society. 

Monotheist have problems in their own society but never think twice when blaming it to us. Also they find it very difficult to digest that any other community is introspecting their stance in society, which these people do in EVERY religious location they have. (they cannot use email as majorities are uneducated).

This has to be change in best interest of country we call as mother India.

Regards,

Hemant K

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Sir

India is also the misfortune of neither being the democratic nor the secular country. Political class and some parties who are not political parties but controlling political parties in unsecular way are trying to divide the people in India on communal grounds

The 3 major religions of India are also divided into 2 groups - Monotheists and the Others (which means Atheists, Polytheists, Tribals, animists, .nature worshiper and so on)

Monotheist persons will never bow to any song like Vannde mataram or National Anthem on principled grounds. For the others like Polytheists already worshipping 333 karor gods of India, 1 President or 1 Italian emporress more or less to be worshipped makes no difference so they follow like fools and do matha tekna blindly.

S D Sharma