Please Mr. Shama Zaidi, can you please mention meaning of the word "secular" in context with your statement below. I am not against any caste or subcaste, but many people term secular as minority groups (read muslims). In India, secular generally means the people who have much more privileged than any other community. But true meaning of secular means person who sees everyone in same level. But forgive me, it is imperative that minority people want different laws as citizen of india, they do not want to stand up for the national anthem, legally allowed for polygamy, (which other islamist countries have banned), dredge their women in black gowns, they want shariat law not indian justice system.
Main question "Does secularism means to allow different levels of rights and levels of inequality in society?" "Is it wrong to have people be equal in front of law atleast?"
Such differences in the attitude adopted by the minority communities, to seek out benefits from our corrupted government leads out only more poor people in these sects. With Divide and Rule adopted by Congress party gives impetus for such demands from minority communities to foster.
I wish to highlight plight of the hindus in Bangladesh or Pakistan. They are not even allowed to practice their religion or earn their daily bread, let aside being treated at par with the their other "majority" people.
The "secular" people in india openly support such actions of their counter parts, with actions like marrying their daughters to bangladeshis and pakistanis. They line up for the person who attack parliament, for stone pelter who dies in attacking our RR army personnel, (only becoz he want benefits of India and Flag of Pakistan). Even after doing this all, they call themselves "secular".
Now the time has came, when term "secular" or "secularism" has to be defined again. Hindus have been the most secular community, though people on this mail List will come forward with incidences supporting points against it.
Regards,
Hemant K
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Shama Zaidi <shamazaidi@gmail.com> wrote:
pseudo-secularists is as bad as calling hindu-nationalists as [seudo-nationalists. anyone who thinks in sectional terms whether minority or majority is a pseudo-nationalists whether secular or hinduvadi.
On 20 March 2013 11:29, seema mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Mr Roy,Glad to know that the list is being cleansed. Communal sentiments are not just worrisome but totally against the interests of our country and its beautiful Constitution committed to secularism and socialismBestSeema
Seema MustafaSome of them could be real Hindutva/BJP supporters.Calling these nationalists/patriots as anti nationals is bad on your part.It has become fashion for so called pseudo secularists to label any one who disagree with them as RSS/Hindutva/BJP/Antinationals.Kindly think over this.On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear IAC subscribers
Many of you would have noticed a sudden increase in "Hindutva" and VHP type of messages in our group recently and may have drawn some wrong conclusions.
We wish to now inform you that these were part of a large international Chinese hacking attempt to penetrate computers of IAC members, to plant trojans by spoofing emails as sent from our list, and also to hack our email servers. There is a large coordinated attempt by professional Chinese military hackers know as PLA 61398 and other Chinese military cyber hacking units posing as militant Hindus and joining various Internet forums and posting comments on blogs, Facebook, Indiatimes, NDTV etc.
In the past 2 weeks IAC has identified over 300 fake persons and identities masquerading as Hindu / nationalist patriots, and we are eliminating most (but not all) from this mailing list. We hope that after this IAC has eliminated most of the anti-national persons from the movement and we can now get on with our work of cleansing India which has been hindered by one corrupt force or another.
with best wishes to everyone
Sarbajit
National Convenor.
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