Re: [IAC++] Fwd: Mandatory CASTRATION for rapists

ya, i'm agree with you all ... theses peoples must be hanged ......

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Gopalkrishnan iyer <iyer_ga@yahoo.com> wrote:

Public servants do not do the job they are entrusted with and paid for from the public exchequer. If one measure the quantum of work they do it is proportionate to the illegal earnings they make and they are servants only for those powers that be and who pays them lavishly, of course a pittance when compared to the gain they make! I have had occasions to visit police stations a few times and the whole atmosphere and attitude of the officers and staff make us feel an unwanted or undesired lot and after long wait if we intrude we are taken to task, no matter whether you are disabled, senior citizens or what not! The staff and officers who are whiling away the time get instantly active only when a neta, or those make them happy turns up, the whole police station ia agog with activities. We now them as our servants and are intended to be so but virtually become their servants because what we sea, read, and heare about are all against what they are there fore. Now this plight has been growing over decades and if every one dared to go to police or police stations the polece and polices stations have to be in millions. This shows the magnitudes of complaints or crimes that are committed in the country. First and foremost they have to be public servants in every sense (and not of the elected representatives o nethas) where by they should be enquiring to the visitor rather than repulsive and disgusting attitude towards one who wants to meet them. It is quite common that a person deciding to lodge a complaint is looked upon with aspersions that he is the accused and this attitude of the law enforcers repel those affected who always hesitate to visit a police station or even talk to a police!  Yes a kind of fear or even an artificially induced feeling of guilt - have I done something wrong to be here in the verandas of the police station!!

---

From: Yashwant P <yashps@gmail.com>
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Fwd: Mandatory CASTRATION for rapists

Rape case in Delhi has enraged the nation.

 

Is  the anger because of this particular crime or is it outburst of panted emotions generated watching increasing number of crimes committed with impunity without any fear of police or law in our country.

 

The basic question is the audacity with which crimes are being committed.

 

Rape is a heinous crime. ( any kind, whether a girl of 3 years or 23 years, leaving her to silently suffer or brutally hurting or killing her to escape the law).  

 

Equally heinous is slaughtering weak old people (dependent on society for their survival) for their property or theft of petty articles. 

Equally heinous is killing of an honest IPS officer by crushing him under tractor tyre. 

 

Equally heinous is dumping  few days old girls in a dust bin or in a deserted place in the cold shivering nights.   

 

and in my view, equally heinous is squandering lacks of crores of  tax payers money ( that includes taxes paid by poorest of poor when they bought anything for their living ) by the corrupt politicians and officials.  

 

To stop all this we need to rise and free the law enforcing agencies from the clutches of corrupt politicians. (so that police personnel stop pleading local politicians for a posting at a police station )      

 

We need to muster courage to stop being part of the mute insensitive crowd and take few  steps forward to intervene and stop criminals from committing crimes in broad day light in our presence.      

 

We need to muster courage to boycott criminals and stop criminalisation of the society  rather than looking at them for protection or favours.

 

We need to have courage to demand services from corrupt and insensitive officials who demand bribe for doing the work they were employed for.  

 

We need to muster courage and obtain the "Right to Reject" criminals and corrupt politicians fielded in elections by various parties and prevent them from entering our assemblies or parliament.  We need to defeat them rather than voting for them for influence, postings, transfers, contracts, business growth, cast welfare or other favours.  

 

We need to muster courage to pick up people lying on roads thrown after a crime or as a consequence of road accidents.

 

All this is not easy and may need some of our time, going through some inconveniences and facing some harassment and coming on roads.

 

These would be small sacrifices for the big gains for our country and coming generations.   

 

 Yashwant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 19 December 2012 16:31, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:

I think a time when law and order seems extremely shaky is not a good one to go around sabotaging it further with arbitrary and emotional rewrites that further wreck its credibility.

The need of the hour is to ensure that punishment happens and it keeps happening consistently. Reporting of rapes needs to be more women friendly, investigations need to find more culprits, with more evidence. 

In the long term, harsh penalties, particularly against specific kinds of rapes - gang rapes, rapes combined with assault, rapes leading to permanent injury/death, etc. However, it is important to not base these revisions on one or more specific cases, but to provide a well reasoned, balanced approach that also ensures that irreversible damage is not done to innocents through misuse of protections.

Castration is easy, but returning a penis to an innocent castrated is not. The same goes for hanging. Life imprisonment should be used more, social interventions to create awareness, punishment for public figures making anti-women statements for "outraging the modesty of women", .... many actions are possible within existing laws, that can send a clear message that subjugation of women will not be tolerated.

It is leaders that set norms of what is permissible in a certain space - even if the space is a country. If criminals get pardon, rapists get political protection, derogatory statements against women get votes, then no law can save women, because how seriously to take the laws will be set by public examples.

Hope this makes sense.

Vidut

WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in
Post: iac@lists.riseup.net
Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net
Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/

WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in
Post: iac@lists.riseup.net
Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net
Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/

WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in
Post: iac@lists.riseup.net
Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net
Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/