RE: [IAC++] Fw: Re: Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause

I don't think the very act done by these boys, is parallel in any way & shape to an animal. As a matter

of fact animal copulation is timely and only to reproduce natural offsprings. Human copulation in fact has

gone out of natural boundary.  There was a time when men controlled their copulatory behavior and

protected their own and their families health based on understanding and obeying the nature. Unfortunately,

modern society has broken all those boundaries, in fact willing to validate the homo-copulation and give

the act a social rights. how shameful? India has not seen the worst days yet. As long as this new generation 

will be allowed to act first and regret latter based upon Hollywood movies duplicated by Bollywood movie 

makers, things will progress for that youth are shouting at India gate in Delhi. So shameful, yet they ......

May I request Ms. Lata P.M. not to discuss insult to "Draupadi' described in the epics of Mahabharat to sensitize

the issue among Hindus, that would be uncalled for. Please try to focus on the various social reasons that may

be associated with such heinous crime like rape. Please try to look into the rise of Americanization in India.

Every parents wish has become that their child speaks, writes and behaves like an American for their own 

egotistical satisfaction. mind. Have you asked why that is necessary? Any one can learn the language to communicate but why they have to mimic an American life style in their daily life? Why they have to watch movies that is simply a duplicate of Hollywood (USA) produced which has destroyed USA and rest of the world by their own heinous production?

Kumar Arun

Michigan (USA)

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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:14:19 +0530
From: latapm@gmail.com
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
CC: rimitadu@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Fw: Re: Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause

 To, Mr, Venkatraman,

  As you quoted an incident of blind man's wife with your last paragraph that it is necessary for women to be more careful and dress themselves with dignity and avoid "free life" in the name of modern lifestyle. I just wanted to know man that do you think blind man's wife was not carefully dressed up and so was molested or raped?

Or molesters, rapists were provoked by other women wearings and raped a wife of blind man?

Do you think there should be civilized full dressing for men and women but I have seen so many men only on half pant roaming in my country piecing everywhere out on the roads is there any incident of male raped happened  just because they move without clothes?

 The sensitive person should at least understand act like rape or molestation is shameful , heinous crime whether it would be on women, male children, rich or  poor, housewife or working, dalit, adivasi, deprived, minority, majority or from any caste or any profession. And all such reports should immediately be reported in media. the raped one's name should not be disclosed and the all guilty's should be arrested. your cry for deprived poor woman will be strengthen if you will not take a position of moral policing. do you know in India from  3 month's girl to 80 years old woman are raped. Even by their family members like father, uncle, brothers happened to be rapists. Do you think this because of their dress sense their family members were provoked  Don't you think that indirectly you are justifying rapists's act and providing them such fake baseless argument on the name of values.

Was Draupadi having natural and economic freedom when she was molested, when Mathura one Adivasi woman was raped by police men were they enjoying their economic and uniform power or Mathura as agriculture labour was enjoying her economic freedom?

 If you want to protect rapist save them openly, we as women from India we know there are very few men who will come forward without biases, but they are sanskriti holders, like pandava and kaurava.. they have to carry the tradition of rape and watching and justifying rape.. you know only one man came forward to save Draupadi and all of us made  him  God just because others present there were not having humanity and anguish. It's very easy to be moral police but what are the morals for viewers? Why don't you remember you as a human being when you comment or criticize on such incidents, why suddenly you realize that you are man and Indian man and you have right to talk on woman's dress, wearings and corner them instead of showing support to the raped women and protest against rapist.

Rape is  heinous crime, stand against violence against women.

Lata P.M.

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You are right sir. Let us live with and according to the times. It is natural that with rising economic freedom and education, women will rightly enjoy greater freedom. I will drink to that. Victor --- On Wed, 12/19/12, Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com> wrote: From: Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [IAC++] Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause To: iac@lists.riseup.net Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 9:46 PM Dear Venkataraman, I strongly object to your so called 'moral policing' of women. Lack of values are not based on genders. They are values propagated by parents and the environment. Let's work towards making the environment 'livable', the rest will take care of itself. Regards Purobi Ghosh Mohan On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote: N.S.Venkataraman, Trustee, Nandini Voice for the Deprived, Chennai To, India Against Corruption Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause The disgusting incident of rape in Delhi is nothing new in today's India, though the media has given wide publicity to this incident. Many such incidents have been taking place all over the country, more so amongst the women in the lower income group and many such incidents have not been reported.   Sometime back, a blind man's wife, ( who has vision ) was escorting her child from the school at 4 pm in the evening in suburb of Chennai, when four rowdies pushed her into a corner and assaulted her. Her blind husband anxious that the wife has not returned, took the help of some friends and went in search of her. He found her lying in a corner in a field totally devastated with the child crying nearby. This matter was reported in some local papers and a FIR was registered. To cut the long story short, the culprits were identified but they have gone scot-free. Obviously, those with political clout or money power can get away with any crime in today's India. The rapidly increasing widespread drinking habit is a major reason for such incidents taking place. Gandhijis advocacy of prohibition has fallen on dead ears. One wonders whether those in charge of administration who know these things have any conscience at all.   Due to the prevailing climate, number of rowdies in the country are increasing every day and police force are becoming increasingly inefficient and disinterested and the politicians in power have no sense of responsibility. The media including print and visual media as well as journals and cinemas, are also responsible for such a situation, as they highlight such incidents viewing them as  sensational news and  business opportunity, while ignoring several good things that are happening.   The corrupt conditions and excessive greediness to make money at any cost are creating such conditions where the law breakers have no fear of law and they think they can buy anyone.What is particularly sad is that the judiciary is also playing a role in promoting such a climate of violence, by not giving judgements in quick time and permitting the offenders to exploit the loopholes in law in the name of protecting the individual rights. Hundreds of cases can be shown where criminals and rapists have gone scot free.   Now women are the victims more in the rural areas and small towns.   It also causes concern that women too are contributing to such conditions by their mode of dress, tendency to go with strangers or the so called boy friends even in the dark hours and lack of parental control. In Chennai city last week, 7 college girl students were reported to have gone for a ride at 11 pm in the night in a car without the knowledge of the parents and they rushed back home by 4 in the morning to reach home before the parents would know. The speeding car met with an accident in which one girl died and the others were injured.   It is necessary for women to be more careful and dress themselves with dignity and avoid "free life" in the name of modern lifestyle. Of course, the media would call the suggestion as moral policing and conduct another debate ! N.S.Venkataraman Trustee Nandini Voice for the Deprived Chennai Email: nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in Post: iac@lists.riseup.net Quit: iac-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net Help: http://help.riseup.net/lists/