You are right sir.Let us live with and according to the times.It is natural that with rising economic freedom and education, women will rightly enjoy greater freedom.I will drink to that.Victor
--- On Wed, 12/19/12, Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause
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Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 9:46 PMDear Venkataraman,
I strongly object to your so called 'moral policing' of women. Lack of values are not based on genders. They are values propagated by parents and the environment.
Let's work towards making the environment 'livable', the rest will take care of itself.
Regards
Purobi Ghosh MohanOn Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
N.S.Venkataraman,
Trustee,
Nandini Voice for the Deprived,
Chennai
To,
India Against Corruption
Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause
The disgusting incident of rape in Delhi is nothing new in today's India, though the media has given wide publicity to this incident. Many such incidents have been taking place all over the country, more so amongst the women in the lower income group and many such incidents have not been reported.
Sometime back, a blind man's wife, ( who has vision ) was escorting her child from the school at 4 pm in the evening in suburb of Chennai, when four rowdies pushed her into a corner and assaulted her. Her blind husband anxious that the wife has not returned, took the help of some friends and went in search of her. He found her lying in a corner in a field totally devastated with the child crying nearby. This matter was reported in some local papers and a FIR was registered. To cut the long story short, the culprits were identified but they have gone scot-free. Obviously, those with political clout or money power can get away with any crime in today's India. The rapidly increasing widespread drinking habit is a major reason for such incidents taking place. Gandhijis advocacy of prohibition has fallen on dead ears. One wonders whether those in charge of administration who know these things have any conscience at all.
Due to the prevailing climate, number of rowdies in the country are increasing every day and police force are becoming increasingly inefficient and disinterested and the politicians in power have no sense of responsibility. The media including print and visual media as well as journals and cinemas, are also responsible for such a situation, as they highlight such incidents viewing them as sensational news and business opportunity, while ignoring several good things that are happening.
The corrupt conditions and excessive greediness to make money at any cost are creating such conditions where the law breakers have no fear of law and they think they can buy anyone.What is particularly sad is that the judiciary is also playing a role in promoting such a climate of violence, by not giving judgements in quick time and permitting the offenders to exploit the loopholes in law in the name of protecting the individual rights. Hundreds of cases can be shown where criminals and rapists have gone scot free.
Now women are the victims more in the rural areas and small towns.
It also causes concern that women too are contributing to such conditions by their mode of dress, tendency to go with strangers or the so called boy friends even in the dark hours and lack of parental control. In Chennai city last week, 7 college girl students were reported to have gone for a ride at 11 pm in the night in a car without the knowledge of the parents and they rushed back home by 4 in the morning to reach home before the parents would know. The speeding car met with an accident in which one girl died and the others were injured.
It is necessary for women to be more careful and dress themselves with dignity and avoid "free life" in the name of modern lifestyle. Of course, the media would call the suggestion as moral policing and conduct another debate !
N.S.Venkataraman
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Thursday, December 20, 2012
Re: [IAC++] Fw: Re: Rape in Delhi – All round corruption and lack of values could be the cause
You stay silent when your mother is treated like shit by your father,
You stay silent when your friend takes dowry from his wife's family,
You stay silent when your classmates sits at a nukkad whistling 'maal' at passing women saying it is innocent fun,
You stay silent when a million women every year in this nation are murdered before birth or their breath dunked in milk before god after it,
You don't report the drunkard husband who beat up your maid servant because it is not your business,
You stayed silent when your boss hit upon a female colleague and you told her to grin and bear it because it happens everywhere,
You sing along with your favourite male stars as they call their 'items' chikni chameli and halkat jawani etc.,
You stay silent when our police and paramilitary gang rape tribal and lower caste women and shove stones inside their rectum saying that that's an aberration of the system,
You did not protest the lower pay that your female colleagues got just because of their sex,
You helped your parents arrange a marriage for your sister against her wishes saying she doesn't know her mind,
You stayed silent when in a family discussion a woman's voice was silenced by the cacophony of male voices,
You force a woman to wear burqa in the pretext of sharia law or justify their domesticity because some asshole called Manu wrote some asinine laws hundreds of years back,
You think feminism is shit and feminist loud mouthed 'bitches' who have not better work to do than cry victim,
You applaud as Hindu right wing men barge into a hotel and slap 'immoral' women with the intention of 'reforming' their 'maa' 'behen'
You stay silent when females in a party are sent away to discuss 'childish' things even as you discuss 'important' things like politics and all in their absence,
You stayed silent when your father directly and sarcastically showed your mother that she's lower then men in intelligence time and again,
You objected loudly when your girlfriend, wife wanted to put her life and career ahead of yours saying yours was more important,
And now suddenly you have become a man because ONE woman was brutally beaten and raped while you conveniently forget the hundreds of women whose psyche you were responsible for brutally beating and raping directly, or indirectly through your inaction... and now you evoke the same 'maa' and 'behen' argument to protect them...
Thanks to the serpent of your awakened manhood, that woman in Delhi will perhaps get justice. But what about the millions of other women in the country of different religion, region and sect united by their shared injustice who will perhaps never get justice precisely for the same reason - your manhood?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote:
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