Re: [HumJanenge] Re: delay in courts

Dear Captain benival & All HJ Members.    I remeber one PIL for increasing the no of Judjes to 5 fold, as per recommendation of Law Commission.This requiremebnts  are based on population of the country.PIL is filed  by Mumbai based Lawer of one NGO called as Forum for Fast Justice.       One member in my co op hsg society of Mumbai,has filled dispute in Co Op Court No.IV of Mumbai,in the year 2002 under reference No 403/2002.But no dicisionis deliverd till date.    Co operative courts of Mumbai are so much corrupt.    Althogh High Court of Mumbai have computerised system of records and information, many district courts and co opertative courts have not computerised their sysems.   AS PER MY INFORMATION OBTAINED UNEDR RTI ACT amount of Rs150/- crores  allocated in the budget for computersiation in courts for the 2008-09 have not been utilised . ( HC was supposed to be operate the fund).         In co opertative courts of Mumbai even.appellate authorities under RTI Act are not appointed.        Pl advise. Thanks. Pravin M Dali. -- On Sat, 16/7/11, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: delay in courts To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, 16 July, 2011, 7:38 AM If I may add what rohatgi has said is -that all courts including SC must be open on the dates as the govt. offices open and not go on holidays like schools. Long Holidays were taken by the colonial judges to visit thier homes in England. "We the people" can not afford such holidays and go on adding the pendency of cases. The unfortunate situation is that All the  servants are deciding what they will provide to the masters""  we the people"" and taking away from our exchequre what ever they want, without asking we the people and they all behave as Masters.   --- On Fri, 15/7/11, umesh rohatgi <rurohatgi@yahoo.com> wrote: From: umesh rohatgi <rurohatgi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: delay in courts To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com> Cc: "sroy.mb@gmail.com" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 6:11 PM the delay in court  can be handled soon and very simply. 1. Ask courts to be self sufficient means raise your own income in order to pay for your self no public subsidy. 2. second after two dates pay another court fees.  3. like in Gujarat have two sessions per day one from 7am to 3pm and other from 3 pm  to 11pm.  4. judges should not be permanent only be elected for five year or four year term, in order to be reelected they had be prove efficient. 5. they should be asked to spend at least eight hours in courts per day like any other public servant. 6. Judges office staff should not allowed to interact with public at any time. if they do than their job must be taken away after three such instances, no mercy. and they should have llb passed assistants for writing the judgement. 7. jury system be adopted where as every adult   should be required to appear, more public involvement and public be paid some allowance . 8. No permanent judges and their staff. more dead weight and permananncy brings more stagnation and no accountability to public.  there need to be Garaos of these permanent judges if they are not performing as per set standards.  with two paisa woth of my opinion. umesh rashmi rohatgi From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:58 PM Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: delay in courts Dear Capt Beniwal 1) If a matter is admitted by the SC they almost invariably pass a reasoned order. 2) Many a times matters are not admitted and disposed off at the thresh hold. At such time there is no need to go into the law. The PRIME problem  with Indian courts is LITIGANTS. ... POOR QUALITY LITIGANTS who have no business being in the courts in the first place. Everything else (corrupt lawyers, corrupt judges, endemic delays, corrupt registries etc etc flows from this ) Having been a veteran of pleading my own case in courts for almost 30 years now ("from traffic court to Supreme Court) I can say truthfully that there is a great change taking place in the Courts BUT what to do about POOR QUALITY LITIGANTS who only want to ABUSE THE LEGAL PROCESS and cause GREAT DELAY. Sarbajit On Jul 15, 6:41 am, capt beniwal <trident...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > Even supreme court judges do what you have said. Many of them are Law to themselves and DO NOT  give any reason as to under whic law the case is decided.  > > --- On Fri, 15/7/11, Vijay Kapoor <vijay99kap...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: Vijay Kapoor <vijay99kap...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] delay in courts > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, 15 July, 2011, 5:14 AM > > There are still other (Shocking) reasons for delays in courts.  Yes, it is the "honble" "judges" themselves. > I have limited but sad direct experience of courts and "judges."  Most of the "judges" themselseves go against the law.  For instance, the Consumer Protection Act suggests that a non-complicated case should be disposed off in about 5 months, and that ordinarily no adjournment should be allowed, and if any is allowed, the reasons should be recorded in writing and costs of at least Rs. 500 should be awarded. However, most cases drag on for years, because the "judges" allow multiple adjournments on the flimsiest of grounds, without recording reasons in writing, and without allowing costs contrary to law.  >