Re: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!

Dear Moderators,

Kindly can you stop this thread? as you yourself have said that this is for the discussion about only RTI and not anything else.

There should be uniform standards for all.

Regards,

Hemant

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Ram Kumar <rkatri1@gmail.com> wrote:

These comments by Gen.Chauhan & Justice Nath are so true that there
are small coteries operating behind these gangs.
Regards R.K.Atri

On 7/14/11, Sainiksangh <gs@sainiksangh.org> wrote:
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>   -----with due respects Justice Nath
>   the Hindu mind set was never designed by almight to be any thing else than
> be seeing  salvation in submitting! Hindu never understook any armed
> struggle that I know of.This is the secret of Hindu survival! Tulsidas when
> asked how he can tolerate being a subject of  mlechch just remarked 'hame ka
> hani koee nrip hove'. To a Hindu the path of moksha is the ultimate goal for
> which he looks to middlemen as guides ! Hindu downfall has been this
> brahmanical philosophy which is so convenient to build followers . One has
> been amazed how successfully this galvanises people to coalsece behind
> individuals who then decide the primacy in life's journey . Then country
> ,nation ,duty ,honour etc become unimportant. To cite many of our Generals
> used to flock at the feet of the late Sai Baba looking for salvation-
> promotions etc,  when they aught to have been fitting out for battle and
> present elsewhere ! How he amassed wealth and was a liability to national
> security is another story.   This is why the Hindu had no nation state or a
> country or an army !  A historical truth with unbroken consistency and bane
> of this society. The Hinduatva creed only proved a step ahead . Hindu unlike
> the white race cannot thus fit into any corrective machinery to improve
> human community. He is an individulist (as a religion)  , thus constantly
> engaged in own self in pursuit of wealth and status which cannot get him
> moksha anyway. Which is why  Hindu slogan is 'kaun banega krorepati' (
> compare this with what the German young were drilled -Germany over all , not
> that even after losing two wars they worse off than Hindus) ! Can one expect
> any society which has money  as the threshold of motivation being anything
> but a slave to greed and to everything that this brings ! Which is why Hindu
> is so philosophising, embracing any, many or none of ideas and thoughts on
> human values  as per conveneience , fatalist, unmoving to misery and sqauler
> , incensitive to right or wrong , evading action,submisive , opulent and
> ostentatious , uncaring about his surroundings , bereft of pride and self
> esteem . With this background he has taken up an illusionary mission of
> fighting corruption when corruption is embedded in Hindu veins right from
> birth from temple rituals to grooming. In the light of this I think your
> suggestion is most appropriate.  The anti corruption war itself will vanish
> very soon as it merges with election activity and these messiahs Anna and
> the Baba settle down in their political camps.
>   regards
>   chauhan
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>    Original Message -----
>   From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath
>   To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:18 AM
>   Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!
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>   Armed struggle is inadvisable. Minimum need of the hour is to tell the
> powers that be that 'enough is enough', that they must educate themselves
> what true Jehad is, a fight with oneself to exorcise the Ghost of Hatred,
> 'to heal thyself' - & in the religious arena to handle those who claim
> themselves to be Muslims but do not live its message of Love & Peace but
> indulge is self-made false Jehad. Interestingly, these elements have never
> elaborated on what their Jehad is and against who!  Administratively, has
> the Govt. ever made any effective search for anti-national elements amongst
> the organization called Indian Mujahideen; if not, why not, if yes, where
> and with what results? Or do minorities  continue to be their specially
> protected beneficiaries ? Experience shows that the Govt. is quick enough to
> act against peaceful people like the mid-night violence between 4th & 5th
> June 2011 over Baba Ramdeo's Satyagrahis at Ramlila Maidan, New Delhi, but
> has no capacity -perhaps no will- against Anti-National elements. People
> must wake up from their slumber; may God be with the People.
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>   From the Desk of :
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>   Justice Kamleshwar Nath
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>         Retd.
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>        Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ),
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>         Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
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>   From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Abhijit Mehta
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:18 PM
>   To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!
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>   Oh don"t worry we will forget these blasts in a week and forgive all those
> politicians who failed to keep us safe even faster.
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>   I think that's what the politicians call "The Spirit of Mumbai"
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>   Is it a time for an armed struggle?
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>   Abhijit
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