Friday, July 15, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: BOMBAY BLASTS !!!

There is no doubt about the attitude and approach of our politicians, It is time that rather than being arm chair critics some of us take on to politics and  assist in cleansing the system. If not we should at least be cautious for whom we vote.
Brig (Retd) Rajan Minocha

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Hemant

1) It is the absolute right of moderators to decide what is circulated
(and what is not). To ensure consistency we have regularly circulated
our group's regulations. Also, I am not the only moderator of this
group.

2) Secondly, the email you refer WAS circulated to the group. It is
also readable on the website of this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/8388c34ed3d0a84

3) If you are unhappy, you can always request to be unsubscribed,
which requests we comply with scrupulously.

Sarbajit

On Jul 15, 2:24 pm, "Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar"
<hemantkshirsaga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Mr, Sarbarjit,
>
> I had mailed the group last at 09 38 pm attached below, you have not
> included the same on the Group? Also later you are insisting that only
> related mails to RTI should be posted.
>
> But nonetheless you are allowing people to comment on the thread, which as
> per your comments is out of the scope from RTI and at 11:38 pm is the last
> post that too not mine.
>
> *The only thing that interests me is be equal for all. And moderators should
> not be of double standards.*
>
> Regards,
>
> Hemant Kshirsagar
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsaga...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: II RE: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Cc: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justic...@gmail.com>
>
> To Mr. Judge,
>
> This is a simple thing, people like you have a stance for a diplomatic
> answer for all the questions when you are asked such questions.
>
> May I ask why the Mr. Kasab is still alive with the Jail/taxpayers money by
> your fraternity???
>
> Also when are you going to sentence such person to death row ??
>
> No, the only answer you may give is armed resistance should be avoided..
>
> What Army does? What Police does? What Judicial does? I pay taxes but I may
> be attacked and if I reply or say that I want to attack, people like you say
> that such should not be done?? Were are you when justice is denied.
>
> Religion Apart if the you are lame then any one will attack us and not you..
> (you are protected with government money).
>
> It is a shame for all!!
>
> Shame Judge. Don't go behind the Muslims and their ideologies.
>
> Do your job FAST and ASAP
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Hemant
>
> > In the past 12 hours, only you have been posting to this thread.
>
> > The purpose of this group / mailing list is
>
> > 1) RTI discussion
> > 2) Better informed and responsible citizenry
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <
> > hemantkshirsaga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Well Moderators, I want an answer for this, are you going to stop the
> >> thread or irrelevant thread below? as you are showing double standards for
> >> the same.
>
> >> I require that we all should be treated equally.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hemant Kshirsagar
>
> >> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <
> >> hemantkshirsaga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Dear Moderators,
>
> >>> Kindly can you stop this thread? as you yourself have said that this is
> >>> for the discussion about only RTI and not anything else.
>
> >>> There should be uniform standards for all.
>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Hemant
>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Ram Kumar <rkat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> These comments by Gen.Chauhan & Justice Nath are so true that there
> >>>> are small coteries operating behind these gangs.
> >>>> Regards R.K.Atri
>
> >>>> On 7/14/11, Sainiksangh <g...@sainiksangh.org> wrote:
>
> >>>> >   -----with due respects Justice Nath
> >>>> >   the Hindu mind set was never designed by almight to be any thing
> >>>> else than
> >>>> > be seeing  salvation in submitting! Hindu never understook any armed
> >>>> > struggle that I know of.This is the secret of Hindu survival! Tulsidas
> >>>> when
> >>>> > asked how he can tolerate being a subject of  mlechch just remarked
> >>>> 'hame ka
> >>>> > hani koee nrip hove'. To a Hindu the path of moksha is the ultimate
> >>>> goal for
> >>>> > which he looks to middlemen as guides ! Hindu downfall has been this
> >>>> > brahmanical philosophy which is so convenient to build followers . One
> >>>> has
> >>>> > been amazed how successfully this galvanises people to coalsece behind
> >>>> > individuals who then decide the primacy in life's journey . Then
> >>>> country
> >>>> > ,nation ,duty ,honour etc become unimportant. To cite many of our
> >>>> Generals
> >>>> > used to flock at the feet of the late Sai Baba looking for salvation-
> >>>> > promotions etc,  when they aught to have been fitting out for battle
> >>>> and
> >>>> > present elsewhere ! How he amassed wealth and was a liability to
> >>>> national
> >>>> > security is another story.   This is why the Hindu had no nation state
> >>>> or a
> >>>> > country or an army !  A historical truth with unbroken consistency and
> >>>> bane
> >>>> > of this society. The Hinduatva creed only proved a step ahead . Hindu
> >>>> unlike
> >>>> > the white race cannot thus fit into any corrective machinery to
> >>>> improve
> >>>> > human community. He is an individulist (as a religion)  , thus
> >>>> constantly
> >>>> > engaged in own self in pursuit of wealth and status which cannot get
> >>>> him
> >>>> > moksha anyway. Which is why  Hindu slogan is 'kaun banega krorepati' (
> >>>> > compare this with what the German young were drilled -Germany over all
> >>>> , not
> >>>> > that even after losing two wars they worse off than Hindus) ! Can one
> >>>> expect
> >>>> > any society which has money  as the threshold of motivation being
> >>>> anything
> >>>> > but a slave to greed and to everything that this brings ! Which is why
> >>>> Hindu
> >>>> > is so philosophising, embracing any, many or none of ideas and
> >>>> thoughts on
> >>>> > human values  as per conveneience , fatalist, unmoving to misery and
> >>>> sqauler
> >>>> > , incensitive to right or wrong , evading action,submisive , opulent
> >>>> and
> >>>> > ostentatious , uncaring about his surroundings , bereft of pride and
> >>>> self
> >>>> > esteem . With this background he has taken up an illusionary mission
> >>>> of
> >>>> > fighting corruption when corruption is embedded in Hindu veins right
> >>>> from
> >>>> > birth from temple rituals to grooming. In the light of this I think
> >>>> your
> >>>> > suggestion is most appropriate.  The anti corruption war itself will
> >>>> vanish
> >>>> > very soon as it merges with election activity and these messiahs Anna
> >>>> and
> >>>> > the Baba settle down in their political camps.
> >>>> >   regards
> >>>> >   chauhan
>
> >>>> >    Original Message -----
> >>>> >   From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath
> >>>> >   To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> >>>> >   Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:18 AM
> >>>> >   Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!
>
> >>>> >   Armed struggle is inadvisable. Minimum need of the hour is to tell
> >>>> the
> >>>> > powers that be that 'enough is enough', that they must educate
> >>>> themselves
> >>>> > what true Jehad is, a fight with oneself to exorcise the Ghost of
> >>>> Hatred,
> >>>> > 'to heal thyself' - & in the religious arena to handle those who claim
> >>>> > themselves to be Muslims but do not live its message of Love & Peace
> >>>> but
> >>>> > indulge is self-made false Jehad. Interestingly, these elements have
> >>>> never
> >>>> > elaborated on what their Jehad is and against who!  Administratively,
> >>>> has
> >>>> > the Govt. ever made any effective search for anti-national elements
> >>>> amongst
> >>>> > the organization called Indian Mujahideen; if not, why not, if yes,
> >>>> where
> >>>> > and with what results? Or do minorities  continue to be their
> >>>> specially
> >>>> > protected beneficiaries ? Experience shows that the Govt. is quick
> >>>> enough to
> >>>> > act against peaceful people like the mid-night violence between 4th &
> >>>> 5th
> >>>> > June 2011 over Baba Ramdeo's Satyagrahis at Ramlila Maidan, New Delhi,
> >>>> but
> >>>> > has no capacity -perhaps no will- against Anti-National elements.
> >>>> People
> >>>> > must wake up from their slumber; may God be with the People.
>
> >>>> >                                         KN
>
> >>>> >   From the Desk of :
>
> >>>> >   Justice Kamleshwar Nath
>
> >>>> >         Retd.
> >>>> >        :
> >>>> >        Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ),
>
> >>>> >         Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahabad ),
>
> >>>> >         Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
>
> >>>> >         Address
> >>>> >        :
> >>>> >        `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar
> >>>> Pradesh,
> >>>> > India
>
> >>>> >         Phone(s)
> >>>> >        :
> >>>> >        +91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746
>
> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>> >   From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> >>>> humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On
> >>>> > Behalf Of Abhijit Mehta
> >>>> >   Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:18 PM
> >>>> >   To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> >>>> >   Subject: [HumJanenge] BOMBAY BLASTS !!!
>
> >>>> >   Oh don"t worry we will forget these blasts in a week and forgive all
> >>>> those
> >>>> > politicians who failed to keep us safe even faster.
>
> >>>> >   I think that's what the politicians call "The Spirit of Mumbai"
>
> >>>> >   Is it a time for an armed struggle?
>
> >>>> >   Abhijit
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from my mobile device
>
> >>>> Best Regards
>
> >>>> R K Atri
>
> >>>> F - 303, Munirka Appts, Plot No.11
> >>>> Sector 9, Dwarka New Delhi 110075
> >>>>  Ph +91- 99588-83111 / 9868610518

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