Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna Hazare is the DISEASE and not the CURE

I am rather surprised about the invocation of Shivaji by rather than those who fought for national issues recognising the composite culture of India. I am happy to have his call for nishkalank jeevan.
 

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From: Sanjay Chaturvedi <chaturvedi.sanjay@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: Abhinav Agarwal <a.h.agarwal@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, 8 April, 2011 8:03:47 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna Hazare is the DISEASE and not the CURE

Whoever in the chain is of the view discarding the initiative by Anna Hazare should visualise the situation from the point of view of the Initiative, the movement, the cause instead of criticizing who and what Hazare is. The names may change but the public initiative has been responded as in this case too. There are critics of Gandhi, Subhash Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh too but while they were there they didnt acted their best for being leaders. My view is instead of criticizing others just review what we as an individual has contributed to the nation and the society.

With Regards

Sanjay Chaturvedi
9811074823

On 7 April 2011 23:01, Abhinav Agarwal <a.h.agarwal@gmail.com> wrote:

History witnesses that Jan-Andolan (people's movement) will bring
reform.
Our democracy needs reform. Anna will bring it. I am confident.

Delhi Police might have diarised few complaints. But in-numerable
police stations don't lodge FIRs.

3 cheers for Anna. I

On Apr 7, 10:07 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anna Hazare says he did not receive any reply / acknowledgment from the PM.
> I am saying he is lying
>
> "Pressurising" is anti-citizen. and anti-democratic  It creates distortions
> in the process
> and legiitimises that "some pigs are more equal than others".
>
> Are you saying that it is OK for Anna Hazare to use extraordinary methods to
> agitate his grievance without availing his ordinary remedies ?
>
> If so, by necessary implication are you conceding that Ms Aruna Roy (by
> virtue of the fact that she is a NAC member) is the only citizen stakeholder
> to be considered by DoPT for draft RTI Rules ? If so why has DoPT not
> notified the amended rules incorporating her comments as approved by the NAC
> ?
>
> This entire drama is being stage managed to ensure that only activists
> remote controlled by Rahul brigade are on the 50:50 committee for LokPal
> Bill so that final Bill is a worthless / unenforceable enactment like the
> RTI Act 2005
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Dipak Shah <djshah1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > There are many matters for which P M not taken any action . What should we
> > understand from this in action?
> >          I think this is better way to pressurize for Good only. What he is
> > personally going to get from the bill?
> > Shah D J
> > USA
>
> > --- On *Thu, 7/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> > From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: [HumJanenge] Anna Hazare is the DISEASE and not the CURE
> > To: "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 9:18 AM
>
> > Dear fellow members of Humjanenge
>
> > This thread is highly moderated. I shall debate any member on the
> > above subject.
>
> > My first point is that Anna Hazare is supposedly aggrieved that he
> > received no reply (to his numerous letters / representations etc)
> > from the PM on the Lokpal Bill causing him to go on fast. My own
> > experience is that the Govt (incl. PMO) works very fast, and ALWAYS
> > acknowledges an ordinary citizen who uses the front door. By way of
> > example, (a) the Delhi Police has diarised BOTH my complaints against
> > Mr Hazare and Ms Bedi and sent me my acknowledgments with diary
> > numbers within 24 hours (b) The PMO took action on my complaint
> > against NAC within 96 hours and informed me about their action within
> > 48 hours after that. PLEASE NOTE that these were ordinary emails sent
> > by an ordinary citizen..
>
> > Hence I say that Mr. HAZARE is either an idiot OR he is being
> > economical with the truth.
>
> > Comments are solicited.
>
> > Sarbajit