[HumJanenge] Re: Anna Hazare is the DISEASE and not the CURE

Get your facts right. RTI is not useless. There is no movement to pass
the bill in the current form also. If you so require

On Apr 7, 11:45 pm, "SHASHI KUMAR.A.R." <rudreshtechnol...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> If the Government pass the lok pal bill in present status due to pressure
> form various organisations without getting public opinion and debate the
> bill may became useless like rti act without proper implementation by
> central and state governments by making several amendments and rules to rti
> act to dilute the true essence of the act , The government must discuss the
> bill from citizens , legal experts and eminent persons not coming into the
> picture , The government duty to bring  efficient bill to eradicate
> corruption
>
> SAVE INDIA AND TRANSFORM INDIA
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Anna Hazare says he did not receive any reply / acknowledgment from the PM.
>
> > I am saying he is lying
>
> > "Pressurising" is anti-citizen. and anti-democratic  It creates distortions
> > in the process
> > and legiitimises that "some pigs are more equal than others".
>
> > Are you saying that it is OK for Anna Hazare to use extraordinary methods
> > to agitate his grievance without availing his ordinary remedies ?
>
> > If so, by necessary implication are you conceding that Ms Aruna Roy (by
> > virtue of the fact that she is a NAC member) is the only citizen stakeholder
> > to be considered by DoPT for draft RTI Rules ? If so why has DoPT not
> > notified the amended rules incorporating her comments as approved by the NAC
> > ?
>
> > This entire drama is being stage managed to ensure that only activists
> > remote controlled by Rahul brigade are on the 50:50 committee for LokPal
> > Bill so that final Bill is a worthless / unenforceable enactment like the
> > RTI Act 2005
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Dipak Shah <djshah1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>  There are many matters for which P M not taken any action . What should
> >> we understand from this in action?
> >>          I think this is better way to pressurize for Good only. What he
> >> is personally going to get from the bill?
> >> Shah D J
> >> USA
>
> >> --- On *Thu, 7/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> >> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [HumJanenge] Anna Hazare is the DISEASE and not the CURE
> >> To: "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 9:18 AM
>
> >> Dear fellow members of Humjanenge
>
> >> This thread is highly moderated. I shall debate any member on the
> >> above subject.
>
> >> My first point is that Anna Hazare is supposedly aggrieved that he
> >> received no reply (to his numerous letters / representations etc)
> >> from the PM on the Lokpal Bill causing him to go on fast. My own
> >> experience is that the Govt (incl. PMO) works very fast, and ALWAYS
> >> acknowledges an ordinary citizen who uses the front door. By way of
> >> example, (a) the Delhi Police has diarised BOTH my complaints against
> >> Mr Hazare and Ms Bedi and sent me my acknowledgments with diary
> >> numbers within 24 hours (b) The PMO took action on my complaint
> >> against NAC within 96 hours and informed me about their action within
> >> 48 hours after that. PLEASE NOTE that these were ordinary emails sent
> >> by an ordinary citizen..
>
> >> Hence I say that Mr. HAZARE is either an idiot OR he is being
> >> economical with the truth.
>
> >> Comments are solicited.
>
> >> Sarbajit