Sunday, April 7, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] The inside job

Dear Sarabjit,

Greetings.

Rivalry felt by Golvalkar of RSS to the extent of jealousy against Savarkar and prejudice against HMS was alleged at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_nationalism .

See the following but it needs factual verification:

Golwalkar nominated for the post of General Secretary in the Gen

e
ral Election of Hindu Mahasabha in 1939, but Golwalkar faced defeat and he left Hindu Mahasabha with quick decision
.
H
e decided to maintain distance from Hindu Mahasabha. Most of the contemporary RSS leaders wrote that Golwalkar has done all these stupidity and anti-national activities due to jealous
y
with Savarkar.

1940-1946 Golwalkar maintained distance with Hindu Mahasabha and boycotted every meeting and events in which Hindu Mahasabha was participating. Golwalkar instructed Swayam Sewaks not to join Politics, but suddenly in 1946, Golwalkar issued a statement to Swayam Sewaks and urged to participate in the National Elections from Hindu Mahasabha. Later, Savarkar distributed most of the election ticket to RSS's Swayam Sewaks. Everything was going fine, but on the very next day of ending nomination date, Golwalkar iss

u
ed new statement that "We had a successful talk with Gandhi Ji, Gandhi Ji assured us that partition would not happen. So we will not oppose Gandhi Ji and Congress, we will not participate in the Elections." All the Swayam Sewaks were asked to surrender their nominations, as all were nominated from Hindu Mahasabha. With this biggest back-step and betrayal by the chi
e
f of RSS, Hindu Mahasabha was unable to participate in the National Elections on the major level.

Later, in the Parliament of 1946, the Proposal of Partition of India was passed with 157 votes of Congress, Muslim League and Communist Party of India. Hindu Mahasabha won 13 seats and Ram Rajya Parishad won 4 seats, were not sufficient to oppose the Bill of Partition of India.

>>> ?? >>> Keshav Baliram Hedgewar
>>>
 He died in 1940, in suspicious conditions, same-time spy agencies French & Italian submitted the report that Hedgewar got murdered not died, and the senior RSS leaders are culprits, but that reports was destroy by the sinners.<<< ?? <<


On 7 April 2013 15:50, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Naishadh

While the Battle of Badgam was being fought in J&K on 3 Nov 1947, Sheikh Abdullah and Bakshi Ghoolam Mohd. tried to infiltrate the Brigade Headquarters which was under threat of imminent attack. They were packed off very rudely and they began to make all kinds of trouble for the Indian Army which was just being rushed in by air and by road so that Srinagar could be defended.

They caused so much trouble that Jawarharlal Nehru began directly interfering in the military action, and a large section of officers decided to stage a coup on 14.Nov.1947 (as a birthday gift) and install Sardar Baldev Singh (then Defence Minister and a staunch HRA man) as PM. For whatever reason, the plan was leaked by RSS- perhaps they had a soft corner for Jawaharlal or wanted Sardar Patel as PM instead.

Since operations were on, nothing could be done, and Cariappa thereafter ensured that those officers could not be touched and for which Nehru never trusted him and packed him off to Australia as Ambassador instead.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:37 AM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarabjit,

Greetings.

Your narration of history was captivating, while replying to Mr. Ahmed. In order to assess IAC/HMS, I tried to profile Savarkar into it.

Savarkar met Dr. Kesav Baliram Hedgevar in about March 1925 at Damle ji's residence at Shirgaon. KBH formed RSS on Dusshera, 1925. Savarkar never joined RSS.

My only interest in raising Savarkar issue was two fold:
*Savarkar actively encouraged reconversion of former Hindu adherents to Hinduism. He did so in Andaman prison and also later while out of prison.
*Gandhi Assassination aftermath affected both HMS & RSS with 25000 arrests during Feb 1 to 10. Savarkar was defended in this case by Advocate Bhopatkar of HMS. Approver Digmber Badge stated that on 14-01-1948 'Tatyaa-raav (Savarkar) ordered Apted to Finish off Gandhi, Nehru & Suhravardi. > How come IAC's plan could have been leaked by RSS?

Best regards,
Joshi NM


On 6 April 2013 23:30, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Naishadh

Greetings

Of course you may know better, but its news to me that Savarkar (HMS) was formally in the Sangh or agreed to Sangh in 1925 when he was just out of jail and confined to Ratnagiri and had lost interest in freedom struggle.

Hedgewar was in HMS but Savarkar was not in RSS.  In any case, why drag Savarkar into this discussion / Gandhi_conspiracy all over again when he was acquitted. He was only charged due to the approver Badge.

So RSS is different from Savarkar,and their decision to save Nehru was not constrained by Savarkar's pardon by the duo. There are always traitors (and heroes) in every movement.

Actually Wikipedia has this to say
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_India#Activities_during_partition

"Noted Gandhian and recipient of the highest civilian award in India, Bharat Ratna, Dr. Bhagwan Das commended the role of the "high-spirited and self-sacrificing boys" of the RSS in protecting the newly formed Republic of India, from a planned coup to topple the Jawaharlal Nehru Administration in Delhi[36][37]"
  1. ^ Anthony Elenjimittam, Philosophy and action of the R. S. S for the Hind Swaraj, Published by Laxmi Publications, 1951, page 172
  2. ^ Om Prakash Ralhan, Encyclopedia of political parties, Published by Anmol Publications PVT. LTD., 2002 ISBN 81-7488-865-9, page 224
Another thing we must understand was that Savarkar was 40 years behind Bengal when it came to defining Hindutva for violence. Sri Aurobindo (Jugantar) Ghosh's grandfather RajNarayan Bose had already published it in 1870(?).

So the only issue really is, if not BJP or Congress or if not Rahul or NaMo then who ??? :-).

In every "C" grade Hindi movie the hot item scene is always "ladkiyon ki ladaai", so Sonia versus Sushma would bring in the TRPs for Rajat Sharma and keep the allies in their respective formations.  NaMo can stay at "Home" like LKA.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarabjit,

Good going. Keep it up.

Share more on Dr. Headgevar meeting Savarkar in 1925 to form RSS  and to take head-on Jinna and Muslim league.

Savarkar was also against Gandhi, Nehru, Congress and ML. The duo had declined to sign petition for reprieve to Savarkar. He was accused in Gandhi's assassination which he and Godse denied but Nehru, Morarji were pursuing to prove.

How and why then RSS would save Nehru?
Hindu Mahasabha had at that time good following in Bengal. Savarkar though not in politics due to his undertaking to British Raj was the prime force to challenge Congress.

How Hindu Mahasabha, RSS and IAC converged with common agenda and not being averse to violence yet all got banned while as you alleged Nehru was saved by a leak?

Best Regards.






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