>>"Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite.">>
GUJARAT HAD NO COMMUNAL RIOTS AND NOI CURFEW IMPOSED DURING PAST 10 YEARS.
This proves that NaMO is either a SOFT leader or that he actively encouraged the massacre of Muslims in 2002.
IN 2002 CURFEW WAS IMPOSED IN SEVERAL CITIES WHERE RIOTS TOOK PLACE
Why did the Gujarat riots go on for 2+ months ? Even the 1984 Sikh riots were over in under a week. In Delhi it was over in 4 days the moment they imposed curfew (despite not having a PM) and calling in the Army
GUJARAT RIOTS STARTED ON 28.FEBR. AROUND 10AM IN AHMEDABAD AND SPREAD TO OTHER CITIES ND VILLAGES IN RETALIATION FOR THE 59 PILGRIMS BURNT IN THE SLEEPER COACH. BY 2 PM MODY INFORMED THE NEED FOR ARMY TO BE DEPLOYED AND AT 4PM. HE CONFIRMED TO PM THAT ARMY IS NECESSARY AND CALLED FOR DEPLOYEMNT.
ON MARCH.1, ARMY FROM CANTONMENT WAS DEPLOYED IN BARODA AND AT NARODA PATIYA TWO SENSITIVE SPOTS. AND CONTROLLED. THERE WERE NO RIOTS AFTER 3RD.MARCH BUT FOR SMALL SKIRMISHES BUT NO KILLINGS.
AJ TAK REPORTER MADE THE GRAVE MISTAKE OF REPORTING THAT MAODY ALLOWED THREE DAYS OF KILLING FROM FEBR.28 TO MARCH.1, VIZ.29,30 AND 31ST.FEBRUARY WHICH HE DID NOT SPECIFY. BUT INTERNATIONAL MEDIA, EVEN OUTLOOK GAVE THIS WRONG REPORT BUT DID NOT BOTHER TO ISSUE A CORRECTION LATER.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE RIOTING PERIOD AS 2 MONTHS WHICH WAS CONTROLLED IN 3 DAYS BY MARCH 3,2002
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Dt.8/4/13 Dear sirs. While it is true that data can be interpreted in diffrent ways, I find there is no anomaly in the interpretation given by Maj. Gen(retd.) Deepak Malhotra. If there were 4 riots in gujrat, there were4 also each in Maharashtra and Bihar and UP If you include 2 in Assam, it leaves only one in Delhi, andhara and J&K leaving the 1947 unparalled partition riots.What is your intrepetation to these 18 riots in 5 states leaving remaing all states and union terrotories peaceful. 3. Gujrat riots continued for long time because it had spread to the villages where you dont see the face of a policeman formonths togather. 4. Who says there were no riots in Rajasthan. See the history of riots in Jaipur and tension between the communities. There are a few clusters like Dugarpur and Banswara from where large scale migration has taken place to cities and even to Gul countries. 5.It is wrong to blame Gandhi for 1947 riots and not speak of the role of Jinnah.It only shows the bias. 6. Delhi riots were localised and that too in certain pockets. There has been no ill feelings among the Hindus for Sikhs. It was instigated by afew local leaders and they are still freely roaming. If the Govt. could deploy army after a few hours, what prevented its use in Gujrat? The Congress Govt. did the same in Assam. 7. It is worth noting that after 1947 riots in,states like Punjab ( now Punjab,Haryana and HImanchaland Bengal which were most affected have remained communally peaceful. What explains this? Role of the Govt. or people. .8. J& K continues to remain riots affected since partiton. I am not a Mody fan nor his rabid critic. The nearest I have seen him was in 2002 while traving on the same flight from Mumbai. He was quiet, aloof and no hangers on. 9. I am not from gujrat. But if he has been elected 3 times, the Gujratis have accepted his model of Governance. He has managed to keep the State peaceful and concentrate on development. If he could not prevent godra killings, he could not prevent the riots in the aftermath.
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 17:07:40 +0530From: sroy.mb@gmail.comTo: indiaresists@lists.riseup.netSubject: Re: [IAC#RG] Fw: Forget Gujarat: Look at the Congress Record: It is ShockingDear Naishadh
The problem with data is that it can be interpreted in different ways.
"Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite."
This proves that NaMO is either a SOFT leader or that he actively encouraged the massacre of Muslims in 2002.
Why did the Gujarat riots go on for 2+ months ? Even the 1984 Sikh riots were over in under a week. In Delhi it was over in 4 days the moment they imposed curfew (despite not having a PM) and calling in the Army
In the 1983 Nellie (Assam) massacres where you did your comparison, it was over in 6 hours, so what could the Congis have done in a remote district in a State which has always been under the paramilitary forces like Assam Rifles and where the Hindu-Muslim ratio is far different from Gujarat being 50:50 or worse.
The fact of the matter is that Modi may be very good at allowing Gujaratis to make money, but when it comes to INDIA he has no track record of performance (where the only like person he scores over on this account is Raul Vinci who is a big ZERO).
Also, I hope you notice that BJP's vote share in Gujarat has been continually slipping since 2002 and Congress is picking up more and more Muslim votes there.
Sarbajit
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The problem with data is that it can be interpreted in different ways.
"Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite."
This proves that NaMO is either a SOFT leader or that he actively encouraged the massacre of Muslims in 2002.
Why did the Gujarat riots go on for 2+ months ? Even the 1984 Sikh riots were over in under a week. In Delhi it was over in 4 days the moment they imposed curfew (despite not having a PM) and calling in the Army
In the 1983 Nellie (Assam) massacres where you did your comparison, it was over in 6 hours, so what could the Congis have done in a remote district in a State which has always been under the paramilitary forces like Assam Rifles and where the Hindu-Muslim ratio is far different from Gujarat being 50:50 or worse.
The fact of the matter is that Modi may be very good at allowing Gujaratis to make money, but when it comes to INDIA he has no track record of performance (where the only like person he scores over on this account is Raul Vinci who is a big ZERO).
Also, I hope you notice that BJP's vote share in Gujarat has been continually slipping since 2002 and Congress is picking up more and more Muslim votes there.
Sarbajit
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Joshi NM <naishadhjoshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra has made valuable data available. I thank him for a very useful tabulated data compilation.Analysis and conclusion is apparent and obvious.Compilation was focused on the ability of state to prevent riots and perform RAJDHARM. Focus was on ruler not on ruled.Sarabjit is way off the mark this time in his comments in reply to Dear Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra.About Gujarat riots in congress rule, you may have to keep in mind state actors renting-sponsoring random killings on both sides by contract killers. Public in general would be rioting against state-police; reeling under month-long curfews. Abdul Latif-Rasul Party etc. were the examples during Madhavsinh Solanki - Chiman Patel etc. rule.Modi Govt. never imposed curfew in his rule. Difference is clear like Day-Nite.Best regards,-- On 6 April 2013 14:20, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Maj. Gen. (Retd) Deepak Malhotra,
1) Out if the 21 state level incidents you have listed,4 have
taken place in Gujarat. (ie. about 25%)
2) This is surely very high and arouses concern that Gujaratis
are a homicidal race of people and/or easily instigated.
3) Why are there no riots in the neighbouring state of Rajasthan
which equally shares the same borders including with Pakistan?
4) In each and every riot in Gujarat the aggressors were
overwhelmingly the Hindus and the victims the Muslims.
5) So what happened in Gujarat's riots are clear evidence that
Gujaratis in power/politics are damaging to the national fabric.
Mohandas Gandhi being one such and Narendra Modi another.
The entire Partition riots 5 million persons dead or injured was
caused by 1 Gujarati (Gandhi).
6) Can India allow another Gujarati (NaMo) to control India's
destiny ? Your own facts and figures say NO !!.
Sarbajit
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Deepak Malhotra <deepakmalho11@yahoo.co.in> wrote:Forget Gujarat: Look at the Congress RecordLet us set the record straight once and for all. Those Secularists who call Narendra Modi a murderer can judge for themselves from the Table below.
- Nowhere in the world has one party (Indian National Congress) presided over the murder of so many citizens.
- No Congress Minister / Politician has ever been booked. Only promoted.
- Do you want to hand over this Country to them again?
- Please think ?
List of MAJOR Riots / Incidents since 1947(More than 50 dead)
Year State(s) Place Numbers Massacred / Killed(Approx.) Community Affected Assailants Party in Power Prime Minister / Chief Minister 1947 Mainly Punjab / Bengal Various Min 5,00,000(worst riots in human history) Hindus / Muslims / Sikhs Hindus / Muslims / Sikhs Congress Jawaharlal Nehru (PM) 1964 Bihar Jamshedpur 2000 Hindus /Muslims Hindus / Muslims Congress KB Sahay (CM) 1967 Bihar Ranchi 177 Muslims Hindus Jana Kranti Dal MP Sinha (CM) 1969 Gujarat Ahmedabad 2000 Muslims Hindus Congress Hitendra Desai (CM) 1970 Maharashtra Bhiwandi 164 Muslims Hindus Congress Vasantrao Naik (CM) 1979 Bihar Jamshedpur 108 Hindus / Muslims Hindus / Muslims Janata Party Karpuri Thakur 1980 UP Moradabad 200 Muslims - Congress VP Singh (CM) 1983 Assam Nellie 2200 (official)5000 (unofficial) Muslims Report Classified Congress Hiteshwar Saikia (CM) 1984 Delhi / Haryana Delhi 4000 Sikhs Congress Party Members Congress Rajiv Gandhi (PM)Bhajan Lal (CM Haryana) 1985 Gujarat Ahmedabad 275 Muslims Hindus Congress Madhav Sinh Solanki (CM) 1987 UP Meerut 50 Muslims PAC Congress Vir Bahadur Singh (CM) 1989 Bihar Bhagalpur 1150 Muslims Hindus Congress Bhagwat Jha Azad 1987 – to date Jammu & Kashmir Various Over 60,000.4,50,000 displaced (ethnic cleansing) Hindus / Muslims / Troops Islamic Terrorists National Conference / Presidents Rule / PDP / Congress / Presidents Rule / National Conference Farook Abdullah (CM) / Narasimha Rao (PM) / MM Sayeed / Ghulam Nabi Azad / Man Mohan Singh (PM) / Omar Abdullah (CM) 1990 UP Aligarh 150 Muslims Hindus Janata Dal Mulayam Singh Yadav (CM) 1990 Andhra Pradesh Hyderabad 300 Hindus Muslims Congress Chenna Reddy (CM) 1992 Gujarat Surat 152 Hindus / Muslims Hindus / Muslims Congress + Allies Chimman Bhai Patel (CM) 1992 UP Kanpur 254 Hindus / Muslims Hindus / Muslims Presidents Rule(Congress) Narasimha Rao (PM) 1992 / 1993 Maharashtra Mumbai 900 Hindus / Muslims Hindus / Muslims Congress Sudhakarrao Naik (CM) 1993 Maharashtra Mumbai 250 All Communities Islamic Terrorists Congress Sharad Pawar (CM) 2002 Gujarat Godhra / Various 1200 Hindus / Muslims Hindus / Muslims BJP Narendra Modi (CM) 2008 Maharashtra Mumbai 164 All Communities Islamic Terrorists Congress Vilasrao Deshmukh (CM) 2012 Assam Kokrajhar 77 Muslims (from BD) Bodos Congress Tarun Gogoi (CM)
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