Hum Janenge: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [indianveterans] DNA Speak Chopper Deal

Friday, February 15, 2013

[IAC#RG] Fwd: [indianveterans] DNA Speak Chopper Deal

Dear All,

Greetings.

Most facts and reasoning is in public domain( The Hindu and Hindustan Times).

We can make out how Babus make ,"Fall guys " of The Armed Forces.

1)AFSPA. :

JVC has erred royally, possibly,at the behest of the shadowy vested interests.....

The act is by Parliament in 1958 to enable the Security forces to enforce the constitutional authority of The State under subversion by hostile elements.Hostile elements,NOW, are entrenched ,"Narco Terrorists" in the ,"GoldenTriangle", the very name that strikes terror in the hearts of the civilized. The JVC's ill advised comment is music to the ears of above detractors on either side of our borders.

The facetious argument that The Army has not solved the insurgency inspite of AFSPA is by the anti national elements (Paid by the vested interests)who are out to defame/demoralize and finally drive out The Army from affected areas.

TheArmy can solve only problems of ,"Military Nature".Indian Army aims to keep the insurgency suppressed down to a level where Civil Administration can carry out it's functions.

The Army believes ,"the counter insurgency is not a battle of bombs and bullets, BUT, of hearts and minds.The Army is deployed as a ,"National compulsion" and NOT of Army's volition.

The Indian Army ,IAF ,IN, BSF/ITBP/Assam Rifles,Coast Guard are the only means for the civilized of the world to keep narco terrorism at bay in J& K in particular and smuggling routes of The Golden Triangle in general.

It is a patriotic duty / Dharma/Faithfulness to unmask the vested interests and their supporters by all Indians.

2)Chopper Scandal: Deals are given shape and struck by Babus for vested interests(?)and Fall guys are factored in advance.

Chronology briefly;

a) Nov 2003:- Mr Brijesh Mishra (Powerful Principal Secy to PM Shri ABVajpayee) states tender requirements( 15000 feet altitude flying ceiling ) have lead to" Single Vendor System" which leads to reduction in Flying ceiling mostly suited for VIP routine visits & a second bid.

b). Sep 2006:- In the Second bid Sikorosky(S-92), Rosboron Export(MI-172) loose out to Augusta Westland(AW-101).

c) Jan& Feb

Apr2008. :- After field trials IAF recommends in Apr 2008 AW-101 Technical suitability vide Babus amended specification.

d). Aug 2010 :- Contract concluded by MOD agency (Babu Dom)

e)12 Feb 2013 :- CEO of Finmeccanica ( AW-101) is arrested by Italian authorities & CBI probe is announced.

Current Status is,03 nos AW-101 Choppers paid (Rs1300 crores) & inducted into IAF VIPFleet(used by PM,President etc). All further payments Frozen.

A powerful Babu initiates in Nov2003 change of Chopper(!!!) and when the S*** hits the fan ,then Air Chief is made the fall guy, by a sudden burst of awareness of sanctimonious & duty conscious(!!!) Babudom.

The present RM Shri AKAnthony( Painfully Upright and a deemed Messiah of The Armed Forces) is called upon to nail the Air Chief .A classic ,"two birds with one shot ie; RM & Armed Forces, by Babus scared of RM ".

In the meantime the borders in general and J&k in particular is kept on the boil to aid the Narco terrorism and vested interests on either side of boundary have a ball .Scary scenario indeed ,and cunningly played out by Army in Pakistan and Bad Babus in India (Institutions ie;Pak Army & Indian Babus ,supposed to be for the service of people ,instead, blatantly regulating the life of an Aam Aadmi from cradle to grave/ final resting place).

Regards.

LtCol retd TTKishore, Engineers

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From: Ravindra Pathak
Date: Friday, February 15, 2013
Subject: [indianveterans] DNA Speak Chopper Deal
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Dear All

From DNA Pune edition today 145 Feb 2013

No comments to me pls except on what i have said.

Brgds

Pathak

Armed forces do not sign deals and should not be blamed
The investigation into the chopper scandal is still going on and commenting on it would be premature. It is the Ministry of Defence, which signs any defence deal and not the armed forces. If the allegation in the chopper scandal is that the conditions were changed to suit a particular company, then the ministry should have opposed it at that time. Why did they fail to do so, is now a moot point. The armed forces cannot be blamed in such cases. An impartial probe should be conducted into the matter. It is an open question whether the Central Bureau of Investigation is capable of conducting such an investigation. There is corruption in the armed forces to some extent. However, it is far less than any other section of society. The people, who join the forces, are drawn from the same society as all of us and the ills of society at large will also come into the armed forces too. The armed forces are regarded as spotless and hence any incident of corruption, even if minor, is blown out of proportion.
Cdr Ravindra Pathak, IN (Retd), Member Governing Body and Pension Cell IESM

The last bastion of integrity seems to be falling
The armed forces' three wings have taken a dent on their image in recent years, the most recent being the air force. There is a saying in Marathi which goes, pakadla gela toh chor nahi tar raja hun thor (one who gets caught becomes a thief, else he is seen greater than a king). It is shameful that the high-ranked officers, who have led their men from the front on field and off it with their suave qualities, have fallen to greed and desire, jeopardising the lives of many. They have fallen in the eyes of their own men. They have broken the vows of duty and brought a blot on the impeccable honesty bestowed upon them during training. This act brings shame to someone like me, who comes from a family of defence officers. With corruption entering ev ery field, the judiciary and the armed forces were the only two institutions, which the people trust. But with chopper scam coming to the fore, the last bastion of integrity seems to be falling. This is a dangerous situation to be in especially for India, which is surrounded by hostile neighbors. A court of inquiry should be immediately initiated and the most stringent punishment meted out to the officers involved.
Girish Deshpande, President,
Professionals Party of India

Arms projects involve huge money; so corruption recurs
The armed forces are given too long a rope. The armed forces too should be subject to investigation like all government departments. The media does not go deeply into the transgressions of the armed forces in the north east and Kashmir. There is huge amount of money allotted to the defence forces and we have little idea how it is spent. We have a lot of respect for the armed forces, but when scandals, such as the chopper scandal involving an Italian company, break out into the public domain, then one loses faith to some extent. Many negative stories about the army never come into the public domain. Corruption keeps recurring in weapons procurement projects because of the huge amount of money involved. This makes it a lucrative arena for kickbacks. It is shameful that the plan to modernise the army equipment is delayed and that even today, so many years after independence, we still have to import arms.
Aamir Tameem, mass communication student

Politicians too should take some of the blame
We are reluctant or unwilling to criticise the armed forces because we depend on them for protection so that we can continue with our daily lives. Just like we can never accept that our parents would be corrupt, we cannot accept the army's criticism, as we are dependent on them. The defence deals are made by politicians and the Ministry of Defence and not by the armed forces. Politicians have to take some share o f the blame, if there is corruption in the armed forces. There may be some corruption in arms deals, but such corruption will never be there in safeguarding the nation's borders. We must also be careful and sensitive when it comes to criticising the army. The media is prone to blowing incidents out of proportion. If society has some corrupt elements, then the army too will have them. It is the army's duty to ensure that corrupt elements are reformed after they join the army.
Gagan Prakash, media studies professor

Corruption is at highest levels, not at lower ranks
There is corruption in the armed forces at the highest levels and not at the lower ranks. The jawans and low-rank personnel are not involved in any wrongdoing. The chopper scandal has left me shell- shocked. In the last five or six years, 100 members of the armed forces have been involved in scams of various kinds. The armed forces at one time had high-rank army officers known for their honesty like Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw but today, the
scenario is different. The real problem is that there is a big gap between the jawans and the senior officials. The jawans, at the frontline, are willing to lay down their lives for the country but the top brass is living in the lap of luxury. We cannot blame the media for focusing on incidents of corruption as it is the media's job. There is no leadership in any area, be it politicians or bureaucracy or any other.

Lt Col (retd) Suresh Patil,
Founder President, Justice for Jawans

Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N. (Retd)

Member Governing Body and Pension Cell

1 Surashri,1146 Lakaki Road
Shivajinagar

Pune 411016
raviwarsha@gmail.com
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