Re: [HumJanenge] Politics of Corruption

Dear All,

Expecting Jan Lok Pal bill to curb ALL corruption is like expecting a band aid to stop a hemmorage.  

My personal view is that all it will do is curb corruption at the middle level. The high end robbers will keep on looting since the reward to risk ratio is still going to be massive ( hundreds of crores would tempt anyone). 

The lower rungs will also continue since the prosecution of lets say a 100 rupee bribe will be too small to pursue. The middle guys like lets say the ones who take 10000 to pass a file are the ones who will really hurt since the rewards may not be enough to justify the risk anymore.

Whatever happens , at least things will move forward from the current apathetic deadlock.

Regards

Indipatriot 

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From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 17 April 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Politics of Corruption

Dear all , Only with JAN LOK PAL Bill curbing corruption is not possible , Electrol reforms , Bringing major change in Criminal procedure code , Civil Procedure codes , Mining policies , Land acquisition policy etc  to ensure corruption cases heard and decided on priority and to acquire the corrupt peoples assets to government account 

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Baritlum Ama <baritlumama@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sirs/Madames

" Jan Lok Pal Bill" is one step leap towards curbing corruption and
along with it

"ELectoral Reform" is one of the most important which need to be
addressed on topmost priority to curb the Corruption.

ama

On 4/16/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sir
>
> I can suggest a foolproof way to reach the masses - it is better known as
> the "Alagiri formula"
> http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/story/litmus-test-for-dmk-in-alagiris-lab/1/135060.html
>
> Unfortunately you are somewhat behind the times, after factoring in
> inflation it is a 200 HUNDRED DOLLAR QUESTION
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Justice Kamleshwar Nath <
> justicekn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  How to reach the Masses, is the hundred-dollar question. Could you
>> suggest a way?
>>
>>
>>
>>             With best Wishes,
>>
>>                       KN
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From the Desk of :
>>
>> Justice Kamleshwar Nath
>>
>> Retd.
>>
>> : **
>>
>> Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ),
>>
>> Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ),
>>
>> Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
>>
>> Address
>>
>> :
>>
>> `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
>>
>> Phone(s)
>>
>> :
>>
>> +91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746
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>>  ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com]
>> *On
>> Behalf Of *Dr.V.N. Sharma
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:08 AM
>> *To:* undisclosed-recipients:
>>
>> *Subject:* [HumJanenge] Politics of Corruption
>>
>>
>>
>> Starting with the Struggle for India's Independence (upto 1947) which was
>> led by Mahatma Gandhi and before the recent rise of Anna Hazare India had
>> 4
>> major mass movements -
>>
>> Þ       Naxal upsurge in 1967
>>
>> Þ      Change in State (mostly Congress) Governments in 1966-67,
>>
>> Þ      Bihar Students Movement in 1975 taken over 20 days later by
>> JP to take   an all India character in 1975-77 and
>>
>> Þ       Bofors scandal in 1988-89 led by VP Singh
>>
>>
>>
>> Except the Naxals rise in 1967 every other movement was meant to cause
>> cosmetic changes in the superstructure. They were all expected to fulfil
>> the
>> requirement of replacing the steward (*satta me parivarttan*)- no
>> matter whether the alternative new incumbent was better or worse. The
>> non-Naxal movements were not designed with an eye to change the System
>> (*Vyawastha
>> me parivarttan*). So the end result in all the four starting from Gandhi's
>> was same- the movements diffused in a few months, increase in Corruption,
>> Inefficiency, damage to Democratic processes and values, nepotism,
>> favoritism and separation of the population in two parallel strips ruling
>> elites and ruled commoner without an overlapping interface.
>>
>>
>>
>> Such changes with so much fanfare in the name of victory for democracy
>> were
>> very much short lived. Remember how within 2-3 years Congress Party came
>> back to power in all the States and the Union after each one of the above
>> 3
>> movements. It does not need a detailed study by an expert to know who were
>> born out of those mass movements and what became of them and how they
>> served
>> this country. No vow at the feet of Gandhi at Rajghat and elsewhere could
>> change any of them. They remained shamelessly on the same track of
>> corruption, money making and nepotism. Agree or not, Naxals/ Maoists alone
>> steadily continued all along with a single long term objective of changes
>> in
>> the 'Base' for changing the System.
>>
>>
>>
>> A very interesting coincidence that the Lokpal Bill was first introduced
>> in
>> 1968 immediately after the movements in 1966-67. But it could not be
>> passed
>> in successive Parliaments in last 43 years. So much for the well
>> intentioned
>> ruling elites. This long period saw every political party and group
>> seating
>> on the treasury benches in Parliament. It becomes clear that all the
>> Parliamentary parties lacked interest in a clean governance. Not much can
>> be
>> expected from such political outfits who could not think of eradicating
>> corruption in over 40 years.
>>
>>
>>
>> One does not have to go too far to predict the end result and timing of
>> the
>> end of this phenomenon. Just look at the constitution of people supporting
>> Anna Hazare on the TV screens and seating with him in Jantar Mantar and
>> operating from both inside, in behind the scene parleys, and outside. It
>> was
>> interesting to see how the fountain heads of corruption were supporting
>> Anna
>> and making themselves visible on the TV screens. Even Yedurappa of
>> Karnataka
>> Corruption fame openly supported Anna's 'Against Corruption' movement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even though many naïve and gullible took part in the streets of different
>> towns and cities in support of Anna at the end of it all it remains an
>> exercise within the 5% of the top bracketed population known as ruling
>> elites. It is not for the masses. Why the same people and the same Media
>> has
>> not stood up for Irom Sharmila who is on Fast for over 10 years now. It is
>> also significant to note that the days of extra constitutional authority
>> overpowering the constitutional authorities are in. The Mother –son duo,
>> Sonia – Rahul on the one side and Anna's five on the other.  Incidently,
>> finally it is an all men affair and no representative of dalit or
>> downtrodden in the drafting committee.
>>
>>
>>
>> In conclusion , therefore, only a people's movement involving the masses
>> can bring the cure to the ills of this country. Nothing less.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dr.V.N.Sharma
>> Cell No.9431102680,
>>
>> Co-ordinator, Jharkhand Shanti evam Nyaya Yatra (JSNY): May 15-20,2011
>> Member, Secretariat, All India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE)
>>
>> &
>>
>> Working Committee Member, Jan Sansad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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