Thursday, April 21, 2011

Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View

O.K. DEAR URVI, KINDLY KEEP IT UP
JN


On 4/22/11, Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sharnaji
> Hum abhi ke waqt bus ek chez keh sakte hain"Dilli dur ast".Net ke dwara
> philhaal hum jo bhi madad kar apyein hum avashya karenge.
> Warm regards
> Urvi
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Dr. Jagnarain Sharma" <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 12:33 AM
> To: <rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: "Bimal Khemani" <bimal.khemani@gmail.com>; "DSouza Wilberious Evanglist"
> <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk>; "Jagnarain Sharma" <jagnarain.sharma@gmail.com>;
> "virender johar" <virender.johar@gmail.com>; "Sandeep Jalan"
> <legallyspeaking.jalan@gmail.com>; <ramdasnaikadv@gmail.com>;
> <sabhapathiur@gmail.com>; <majorravi@gmail.com>;
> <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>; "Santosh Nargund" <spnargund@yahoo.com>;
> "urvashi sharma" <aishwaryaj.hpage@gmail.com>; "Abhimanyu"
> <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>; "Bhaskar Prabhu"
> <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>; "Manoj Pai" <manojpai@yahoo.com>; "Dr.V.N.
> Sharma" <vnsh44@gmail.com>; <parivartan_india@rediffmail.com>;
> <kabir.rti@gmail.com>; <ash.aswathi@gmail.com>; <info@annahazare.org>;
> "Karmayog.org" <info@karmayog.org>; "Krishnaraj Rao"
> <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum-
> ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
>
>> DEAR BIMAL & ALL
>> We need to watch THE situation on day to day basis and
>> help the Anna Hazarey team to finalise early the draft for JAN
>> LOKDAL BILL .
>> You may be correct that these Politician may create all
>> type of hurdles.
>> I think Kiran Bedi is working for the ANNA HAZARE team
>> and she keeps watch and is on the job.
>> IS LIYE HATHIAR DALNE KI KATAI JAROORAT NAHIN HAI.
>> Urvi, who being an Advocate may also like to join
>> hands with Ms. Kiran Bedi.
>> REGARDS
>> DR. JN SHARMA
>> ADVOCATE/ HUMANRIGHTS ACTIVIST
>>
>> On 4/21/11, Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bimalji,
>>> To kya kiya jai?Hathyaar daal diye jain?
>>> Regards
>>> Urvi
>>>
>>> From: Bimal Khemani
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 5:36 PM
>>> To: DSouza Wilberious Evanglist
>>> Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com ; Urvi Sukul Singh ; Jagnarain
>>> Sharma ;
>>> virender johar ; Sandeep Jalan ; ramdasnaikadv@gmail.com ;
>>> sabhapathiur@gmail.com ; majorravi@gmail.com ; vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in
>>> ;
>>> Santosh Nargund ; urvashi sharma ; Abhimanyu ; Bhaskar Prabhu ; Manoj Pai
>>>
>>> ;
>>> Dr.V.N. Sharma ; parivartan_india@rediffmail.com ; kabir.rti@gmail.com ;
>>> ash.aswathi@gmail.com ; info@annahazare.org ; Karmayog.org ; Krishnaraj
>>> Rao
>>> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a
>>> referendum-
>>> ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
>>>
>>>
>>> Friends
>>> I am very sure, these politicians will do any thing to stop the LOKPAL
>>> bill
>>> to be passed
>>>
>>> BIMAL KUMAR KHEMANI,
>>> TRAP group of RTI activists
>>> ALIGARH (U.P.)
>>> Mob:09359724625
>>> ******************************************
>>> Officially Certified A Grade by DoPT
>>> *****************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 April 2011 15:07, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist
>>> <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ms. Singh,
>>>
>>> I shall do so. For it is time people of India chose a Commissioner of
>>> People (LokPal) by themselves. Profile of the candidate should be made
>>> public on internet newspapers. Person should be erudite in law &
>>> constitution as this person will make President, Governors all states,
>>> CJIs
>>> of Supreme Court of India & all High Courts accountable to People of
>>> India
>>> with he or she by himself or herself accountable to People of India.
>>>
>>> About 4 years ago I had suggested to then Election Commissioner Navin
>>> Chawla of issuing smart card ids to all citizens of India eligible to
>>> vote &
>>> using by suitable interfacing with ATM networks all over the country, to
>>>
>>> be
>>> coordinated by National Informatics Centre of Government of India so
>>> that
>>> entire nation votes for assembly & Parliament election simultaneously on
>>>
>>> a
>>> single day, with results out on the very next day. No reply has been
>>> received yet. This would save billions of Rupees to nation. Nandan
>>> Nilekani
>>> headed UID project is least heard nowadays.
>>>
>>> Similar means can be adapted for referendum for election of Lokpal as
>>> he/she will not be obliged to any executive of this country (executive
>>> having the same connotation as found in Art 12 of The Constitution of
>>> India). He/she shall be a true Commissioner/ess of The People of India,
>>> free, fair, equitable & fearless. Accountability to People of India
>>> should
>>> exist otherwise it would be a paradox of when one becomes Prabhu of
>>> Praja,
>>> he/she ceases to be Praja for ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!
>>>
>>> Similar process should have been adopted in appointment of CICs & SICs
>>> as
>>> well as State Lokayuktas. We would not have had unskilled workers
>>> quarrelling with tools. Nor failed dentists or Tehsildars being elevated
>>> to
>>> SICs E.g. Dr S.M.Krishna SIC Karnataka. Or Do as I say but Don't Do What
>>> I
>>> Do Lokayukta of Karnataka Justice K.S.Hegde!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> WEDS
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
>>> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011, 0:11
>>> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a
>>> referendum-
>>> ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
>>>
>>>
>>> Do send this suggestion to the India Against Corruption webpage.They
>>> are
>>> co-ordinating the Lokpal effort.I am with you on this.
>>> Regards
>>> Urvi
>>>
>>>
>>> From: DSouza Wilberious Evanglist
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:28 PM
>>> To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com ; Dr.V.N. Sharma ;
>>> bimal.khemani@gmail.com ; Jagnarain Sharma ; majorravi@gmail.com ;
>>> usukulsingh@hotmail.com ; urvashi sharma ; Santosh Nargund ; Krishnaraj
>>> Rao
>>> Subject: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum-
>>> ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Dr. Sharma,
>>>
>>> Lokpal should be appointed by a referendum to people of India & Lokpal
>>> bill should include Prez, Governors of State, PM, Ministers & CJI of
>>> Suprememe Court & High Courts too. The candidates profile should be made
>>> public prior to referendum.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> WEDS
>>> From: Dr.V.N. Sharma <vnsh44@gmail.com>
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2011, 11:38
>>> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
>>>
>>>
>>> The Attached Article is a good one on Anna Hazare euphoria against
>>> corruption. It requires attention as to what this phenomena meant to Aam
>>> Aadmi of this country and what is the role of the corrupt so called Civil
>>> Society and externally funded NGOs and their corrupt representatives who
>>> were surrounding Anna and who represented the people of India in
>>> negotiations with corrupt ministers. Do we have to be careful?
>>>
>>>
>>> This should be widely debated amongst the positive thinkers and Social
>>> Activists and necessary conclusion drawn as to how effective this
>>> movement
>>> against corruption will be. Does the positioning of a Jan Lokpal ensures
>>> warding off corruption from Head of the Govt. down to the local Babu
>>> level?
>>> The present arrangement seem to go up one more level from CBI to CVC and
>>> now
>>> Jan Lok pal. Whosoever appointed a CVC recently (removed by an SC Order)
>>> remains empowered to appoint a Jan Lokpal too. The PM knows nothing on
>>> any
>>> matter from price rise to price control to corruption by his party men,
>>> ministers and members of Parliament.
>>> Holding a well funded election for individual candidate at a given
>>> frequency indicates existence of Democracy- in Prajatantra mode, not in a
>>> Jantantra mode. What do the people expect from such TV and SMS publicised
>>> election. Is it that no social or political scientist or a politician
>>> sees
>>> this as a -ve change. For Parliamentarians and Legislatures it provides a
>>> good opportunity to remain aloof from the voters and make money through
>>> underhand deals as much as they can.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Dr.V.N.Sharma
>>> Cell No.9431102680,
>>> Co-ordinator, Jharkhand Shanti evam Nyaya Yatra (JSNY): May 15-20,2011
>>> Member, Secretariat, All India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE)
>>> &
>>> Working Committee Member, Jan Sansad
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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