Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna has not lied. Pl do not spread this wrong info. Grateful to u if u appreciate this.

I feel what is important is that Anna and the common man could give a jolt to our politicians and government,s reckless and unreined, corrupt strides, a speed breaker at that! Yes, he reminded that the people cannot be moot spectators! Anna did pull the rein and this has caused an awakening! There was no one to bell the cat, our corrupt conductors of the country, and yes anna did it. Now it is for all of us to constrain ourself to the task of carrying on from now sufficiently watchful on ourself including possible black sheeps! Now let us assume without admitting that Anna has lied! However our law says clearly that unless the guilt is proved one cannot imply, take for granted that he is a liar! We have the recent CVC episode, or several others as  examples. There are even ministers, Governors and so on continuing in responsible (irresponsible?) positions enjoying all cozy comforts in life! We have a politician turned governor whom the people have been following, found to be a womanizer and who has had the audacity to disown his son- the gentleman is on the last step on the ladder to the other world! Our president too have pending cases having been involved in Criminal acts! We have a practice of our investigating agencies engaging earst while criminals as informants! Today' News editions of prominent papers have announced arrest of "business Tycoons" who were projected in the media relentlessly icons worthy of following them! All these people appeart to have reached their pinacle by wrong doings which ultimately, logcally speeking is at the cost of poor and downtrodden! Anna's achievement is like a small log of wood on to which the drowning common man and below got a foot hold and it is now for others to take it further ! His lies will not be, at least from now onwards,  harmful nor he could do some thing wrong knowingly! Let us uphold Anna's success and cling on to it without bickering otherwise we are playing into the hands of those against whome we are fighting and that is precisely they want! The need of the hour is to make those rulers aware that they cannot ignore the people!     --- On Wed, 20/4/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote: From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna has not lied. Pl do not spread this wrong info. Grateful to u if u appreciate this. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 8:29 AM One asset you have forgotton to declare, your knowledge of answering each and every point even sometimes resorting to ill-conceived arguments that goes over our heads.   I appreciate your action in declaring your assets instantly on demand and have proved an honest citizen on this litmus test.    with best wishes and regards, m k gupta --- On Wed, 20/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna has not lied. Pl do not spread this wrong info. Grateful to u if u appreciate this. To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 6:28 AM Cash (in hand + banks)  == varies between 100 rupees and 50,000 rupees from time to time Bungalow = zero Plot = zero Shares =  zero Gold = 1 wedding ring Anything else you want to know ? Sarbajit On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:15 PM, irfan khan <rtirti.khan@gmail.com> wrote: > HA HA HA > HOW CLAVERLY SARBAJIT SKIRTED MY QUESTION ... > > > HAHAHA .. > > SARBAJIT DONT TALK THIS AND THAT .... COME ON ... DECLARE YOUR ASSETS ..CASH > IN HAND ...CASH IN BANKS... BUNGALOW ...PLOTS ...GOLD ...SHARES... > > COME ON SARBAJI COME ON . > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:55 PM, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> My posts on these groups are restricted strictly to RTI - so breaking a >> self imposed rule here.....posting about something not directly related to >> RTI and commenting on a post regarding individuals. >> Sometimes, when I see reactions to Sarabjit's often provocative posts, I >> only wonder as to how many of you have actually interacted with him over a >> considerable period of time ? How many of you have actually met him in >> person ? >> I am one of those who have benefited from Sarbajits guidance, assistance >> and discussions - mostly related to RTI. We have agreed and disagreed, >> sometimes generating more heat than light, but the arguments have >> nevertheless been enlightening. Each individual has his own views but if you >> have the capability to sift the wheat from the chaff, I can assure everyone >> that you will be the ultimate beneficiary from his knowledge and arguments. >> It is upto you ! >> I only wonder, what happened to the Sarbajit in these pictures from 2006 >> (or are they from 2007 ?), which includes many known  faces whom he >> constantly harangues in his posts these days. Let sleeping dogs lie. >> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/403649468_c96e47b6c5.jpg >> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/134/403675907_4ae4e3d0bb.jpg >> >> And it is a fact that he does not make a single paisa out of his RTI >> related activities. >> On the contrary, I have been the beneficiary of a few cold coffees and ice >> cream >> treats in the Nirulas near that petrol bunk at the corner of AKB. >> (By the way where has that parathawalla disappeared these days ?) >> Sarbajit, the Government will never decide that you are an "eminent" >> person (Sec 12(5)) because as you yourself once said - "to be "eminent" one >> needs to be either absolutely corrupt or at least pliable". >> So don't have any hopes ! >> Unless of course, you change your mind and support Anna Hazare for PM >> (LOL) >> RTIwanted >> ________________________________ >> From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> >> To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005 >> <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Anna has not lied. Pl do not spread this >> wrong info. Grateful to u if u appreciate this. >> >> Dear Irfan-bhai >> >> Let me solemnly declare as follows:- >> >> 1) I have not received any money (in any form) from any foreigner / >> foreign body ever !!!! >> >> 2) I have not received any money from any Govt. body / agency etc - >> EXCEPT FOR Rs. 100 token amount which I won in National Science Talent >> Search competition when I was in 9th or 10th standard. This 100 rupees >> was given to me as a token amount (instead of a huge amount I was >> meant to receive) for reasons which are entirely in the public domain. >> >> 3) I do not take even a singe paise from anyone for social work. >> People out of the goodness of their hearts have occasionally offered >> me a) their blessings and good wishes b) parathas at the street vendor >> outside CIC c) Coffee and burgers at Nirulas opposite CIC, etc d)  a >> CPIO I was assisting (wrongly accused by a high-handed IC) once >> insisted on paying for a packet of chips (Lays Rs.20) and a Coke (Rs >> 21) for my son who had to wait in my car. I cant recall any other such >> incidents, members who I have assisted from time to time may assist me >> by posting. >> >> I am a hard-working person, I do not run NGOs  or associate with NGOs, >> I do not accept awards and prizes. I file my tax returns regularly and >> believe in nation building and exposing corrupt anti-national people. >> >> I can also assure you that if the Givt ever decided I was an eminent >> person, I would promptly declare the true value of my assets, and not >> hide behind legal fig leafs like Mr Shailesh Gandhi resorts to. >> >> Sarbajit >> >> On Apr 19, 9:44 am, irfan khan <rtirti.k...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > SARBAJIT PEASE DECLARE YOUR ASSETTS. >> > >> > DEAR SISTER KIRAN >> > ASK SARBAJIT TO DECLARE HIS ASSETTS FIRST >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Dear Kiran >> > >> > > Since you are closely associated in this movement, could you therefore >> > > clarify some more "lies" for the benefit of our members. >> > >> > > 1) Is Anna Hazare a Magsaysay awardee (like yourself) or not ? If so >> > > what happened to that money ? >> > >> > >> > > >http://ibnlive.in.com/news/plot-to-kill-magsaysay-winner-anna-hazare-... >> > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ramon_Magsaysay_awardees >> > >> > >> > > >http://southasia.oneworld.net/todaysheadlines/indias-lokpal-bill-anna... >> > >http://www.ketan.net/art2_4.html >> > >> > > 2) Is it true or not that when he was a driver in the Army (Indian) >> > > that he ran away from his vehicle seeing an approaching Pakistani >> > > Sabre jet leaving his co-driver and passengers to die ? I am asking >> > > this since the official army inquiry into the incident has not been >> > > made public. >> > >> > >> > > >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/anna-hazare-the-guest-editor/top-h... >> > >> > > 3) Can you inform us why the vehicle / Maruti Gypsy Anna and you were >> > > traveling in on the first day of the fast unto death at Jantar Mantar >> > > had a prominent anti-national sticker depicting incorrect borders of >> > > India, and why an experienced police officer like yourself failed to >> > > detect and remove it. >> > >> > > I can list several more doubts I and our members have, but look >> > > forward to your clarifications on these relatively minor "lies" first. >> > >> > > PS: As a genomic descendant of Rabindranath Tagore, I am outraged that >> > > some private body is misusing his name to confer its dubious award to >> > > dubious people to get cheap publicity, and Anna Hazare will rise a few >> > > notches in my esteem if he throws this award back in their face.. >> > >> > > Warmly >> > >> > > Sarbajit >> > >> > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:45 AM,  <kiranbedi2...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >> > > > Anna has not lied. >> > > > Please. >> > > > The award is an announcement only. >> > > > And not received. >> > > > Let us please allow honest change in our country! >> > > > Its for the good of all of us. And our children. >> > > > With gratitude. Kiran. >> > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel >> > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: sarbajit roy <sroy...@gmail.com> >> > > > Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> > > > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:09:27 >> > > > To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005< >> > > HumJanenge@googlegroups.com> >> > > > Reply-To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> > > > Subject: [HumJanenge] "Anna" lies again >> > >> > > >http://www.hindu.com/2011/04/16/stories/2011041662461600.htm >> > >> > > > Dear Mr Anna Hazare. >> > >> > > > It seems that you have many names. >> > >> > > > What happened to the Rs. 110,00,000 (Rs 1.1 crore) that you received >> > > > for the IIPM-Rabindranath Tagore award 2011 - or is that just >> > > > another >> > > > device to launder white money into black ? >> >> > >