Re: [HumJanenge] Natgrid will kick in from May 2011. Is the big brother threat for real?

Hello

You had posted that you would expose identities of Owners, moderators
of this group by using IP address. Now you say that owner / moderators
is not vishal Kudchadkar or PMK1504. I have also been trailing the
people behind this group, but my own study proves that "v4Veeresh
(humjanenge.owner")" who was posting to this group and "v_kudz AT
yahoo dot com" ("vishalkudchadkar") are one and same person, and same
can be verified by anyone.

Raminder

On 11/6/10, VijayBahadur Singh <vijaybahadur@gmail.com> wrote:
> Imposter,
>
> By posting such clippings by copying from various websites avaiable on
> net you are trying to convince the members by using the names of Vishal
> Kudchadkar or PMK1504, you are trying to fool members that yours is real
> group. The fact is that you are you are one of the biggest fool and liar on
> the earth.
>
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:19 PM, vishalkudchadkar <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> http://www.tehelka.com/story_main47.asp?filename=Ne131110Natgrid_will.asp
>>
>> A terrorist has been arrested in Kashmir's Anantnag district. During
>> interrogation, he reveals that two of his fellow operatives are from
>> Coimbatore in Tamil Nadu. As of now, the procedure is that the
>> interrogator would write a report to be perused by his senior
>> officers. If and when they read it, the information will then be
>> forwarded to their counterparts in the relevant states, who will
>> forward it to the district superintendent of police. This winding
>> process often takes a month.
>>
>> But from May 2011, there will be major changes in the way such data is
>> handled across India. With the National Intelligence Grid (Natgrid) in
>> place, the interrogator will immediately feed the data into the
>> Natgrid and the Coimbatore Police will get instant updates. They can
>> not only mail back specific questions to the interrogators, but also,
>> if required, send someone to join the investigation right away. All
>> thanks to Natgrid.
>>
>> Natgrid, the brainchild of Home Minister P Chidambaram, is based on
>> the US model. It will integrate the existing 21 databases with Central
>> and state government agencies and other organisations in the public
>> and private sector such as banks, insurance companies, stock
>> exchanges, airlines, railways, telecom service providers, chemical
>> vendors, etc.
>>
>> Eleven government agencies (including RAW, Intelligence Bureau,
>> Revenue Intelligence, Income Tax, etc.) will be able to access
>> sensitive personal information of any individual — such as bank
>> accounts, insurance policies, property owned or rented, travel, income
>> tax returns, driving records, automobiles owned or leased, credit card
>> transactions, stock market trades, phone calls, emails and SMSes,
>> websites visited, etc. A national population registry will be
>> established by the 2011 Census, during which fingerprints and iris
>> scans would be taken along with GPS records of each household.
>>
>> Once the Natgrid is in place, security agencies will need to just feed
>> your name into the system and all information about you will be
>> available at the click of a button. Apart from this, important
>> information that every police or intelligence agency receives will
>> also be fed to the grid, thereby enabling the agencies to coordinate
>> their strategy.
>>
>> According to the home ministry, the Central intelligence agencies and
>> state police have plenty of information that is not shared or because
>> there is no umbrella organisation to collate all the information,
>> which any or all the agencies can share to generate real-time
>> intelligence. The Natgrid enables quick extraction of information,
>> data mining, pattern recognition and flagging 'tripwires' of
>> suspicious or unusual activities.
>>
>> With a budget of Rs. 2,800 crore and a staff of 300, the Natgrid is
>> headed by Raghu Raman, an ex-serviceman who previously headed the
>> Mahindra Special Service Groups, a leading player in risk and
>> governance consulting.
>> Natgrid will integrate existing 21 databases with Central and state
>> government agencies and other organisations
>>
>> BUT WILL the Natgrid really improve our national security? Or will it
>> merely duplicate the existing intelligence mechanism? "Natgrid is all
>> about instant communication," says former Intelligence Bureau director
>> Ajit Doval. "It will help in dissemination of data — everybody will be
>> in the loop. It will function like a power grid, where every state
>> shares power stored in it. A major hurdle in the fight against
>> terrorism is that many intelligence agencies are wary about sharing
>> information with each other. In the US, the CIA does not talk to the
>> FBI, which keeps the NSA at bay. In the UK, the MI5, MI6 and
>> Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) are known to have turf
>> battles. In India, the RAW regards the IB and MEA as more of an enemy
>> than it does the ISI."
>>
>> "The success of the GCHQ and MI5 in identifying militants in Pakistan
>> by matching voice samples from phone conversations intercepted between
>> Pakistan and UK, and comparing them with a database of voice prints of
>> suspects, underscores the need for Natgrid," says Ravi Visvesvaraya,
>> head of C4ISRT (Command, Control, Communications and Computers
>> Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance and Targeting), a defence
>> think tank. "India has had a Joint Intelligence Committee to
>> coordinate between intelligence agencies, but its functioning has been
>> stymied by the very agencies it was supposed to integrate."
>>
>> Training of end-users is also important. "If you want Natgrid to be
>> effective, you have to open it to the last operating level, that is
>> your sub-inspector," says Doval. "The problem will be that most of
>> them are semi-literate and not well versed with computers. So, the
>> chances are that they feed so many things that contaminated data will
>> finish off the good data. To save it, you will need to have trained
>> people all over the country so that they don't fill the grid with
>> trash."
>>
>> What also worries the home ministry is the security of the system and
>> its potential misuse. "A stringent system for verification should be
>> in place," says Doval. "If there is a mole, then terrorists or hackers
>> will be able to download data. Imagine the kind of catastrophic
>> scenario that will create. So, it will be a challenge to look after
>> the security of the system."
>> 'In conjunction with the UID scheme, Natgrid will result in invasion
>> of privacy,' says C4IRST head Ravi Visvesvaraya
>>
>> Some are worried about privacy issues. "In conjunction with the UID
>> scheme, Natgrid will result in invasion of privacy, and personal data
>> will be extremely vulnerable to exploitation by criminals," says
>> Visvesvaraya. "Due to the terror threat, there has been a trend in the
>> judiciary and legislature to make surveillance easier and curtail
>> privacy rights."
>>
>> Today, a citizen has absolutely no legal protection against government
>> surveillance. Though the Supreme Court had ruled against arbitrary
>> surveillance on a petition filed by the People's Union for Civil
>> Liberties in 1996, it was overturned by Parliament with the passage of
>> the Information Technology (Amendment) Act 2008. It is noteworthy that
>> no political party raised objections when the government passed this
>> Act, which removed certain safeguards regarding surveillance.
>>
>> "The assertions that the Natgrid will have mechanisms to prevent
>> leakage and that it will access only abstracted and approved subsets
>> of information cannot be relied upon," warns Visvesvaraya.
>>
>> Indeed, in a pending case about invasion of privacy, the Delhi High
>> Court observed: "We have no clear definition of what is meant by
>> 'invasion of privacy' within the RTI Act." Indeed, we have no
>> equivalent of the UK's Data Protection Act, 1998, Section 2 (Sensitive
>> Personal Data), which reads as follows:
>>
>> In this Act, "sensitive personal data" means information such as:
>> • The racial or ethnic origin of the subject
>> • His/her political opinions
>> • His/her religious beliefs or other beliefs of a similar nature
>> • Whether he/she is a member of a trade union
>> • His/her physical or mental health condition
>> • His/her sexual life
>> • The commission or alleged commission by him/her of any offence
>> • Any proceedings for any offence committed or alleged to have been
>> committed by him/her, the disposal of such proceedings or the court
>> sentencing.
>>
>> "Natgrid is an important step, but there are various handicaps," says
>> a home ministry official. "To ensure that the data does not fall into
>> the wrong hands or is not abused will be a Herculean task the
>> promoters will face."
>>
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