Re: Re: [HumJanenge] Bikaner district collector set new trend by penalising defaulting PIOs by 1000/- each

Dear Mr.PMK,

I am not interested in strategies that are applied but if the acts are illegal they are illegal. PIOs may be wrong but nothing can be on them which is illegal. So I wish on the board there need not be veiwpoints on the matter said but let there be what is correct or incorrect.

If any body wants to take my camments may take it or leave it.

But act be 1st appallate authority is illegal but I dont feel IAS will be a 1st appallate officer.

 

Bhaskar Prabhu

Mahiti Adhikar Manch

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM, PMK1504 <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Bhaskar

You have clearly regressed in RTI since I went away.
If you had examined closely like I taught you would
have remembered basic principles of estoppel and "double
jeopardy".

By imposing penalty of Rs.1,000 a corrupt IAS babu has
allowed PIO to escape penalty of  Rs 25,000.

PMK

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
<mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is totally illegal and just praising for illegal action is uncalled
> for, there is no provision in RTI Act to do such voilative things showing
> himself to be a Messiah. Only he could do was to call for an internal
> departmental enquiry under service rule as RTI Act is work under service
> rule. Central govt and many state govt have taken GRs for to call for an
> departmental enquiry if the PIOs don't adder to RTI act and/or if appellate
> authority is not of that position then as appellate authority he need to
> inform the concerned higher ups to call for the departmental enquiry and
> this need to be entered service record, this can be prayed in 1st appeal
> prcess. and this will be of very much use full as substantiating matter
> for 2nd appeal with IC. 1st appellate authority can recommend to IC for
> penalising the PIO. Even  if the information is ordered to be given by Ist
> appellate authority, penalty part can be appealed with IC as delay matter
> remains pending. I feel PIO should go IC by appeal and ist appalate
> authority should be educated on this matter.
>
> PIO need not go to court but need to be complain to IC and leave the matter
> to IC PIO can apeal for censoring of 1st appellate authority. In Maharstra
> in the beginning many AA were doing these wrong things but we tell in each
> of the workshop that ist appellate authority does not have any right to levy
> penalty under RTI but they can levy penalty under their provision service
> rules after calling a enquiry for wrong conduct or work deficiency.
>
>
> Inservice for RTI
> Bhaskar
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:13 AM, leslie almeida
> <leslie_almeida@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This order is Divali bonus must welcome, pendancy of 2nd appeal will come
>> down drastically
>>
>> Leslie Almeida
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:54:40 +0530 wrote
>> >GREAT. SUCH JUDGMENTS WIOLL HELP RTI.
>> JOHAR
>>
>>
>> On 3 November 2010 16:31, manoj wrote:
>>
>>                 Diwali Greetings-2010
>>
>> First time in india, any appellate authority have penalised
>>
>> defaulting
>> PIOs.Bikaner district collector Dr.Prithvi Raj have set new trend by
>> directing defaulting PIOs to deposit 1000/- each within two weeks and
>> appear with deposit receipt in the court of first appeal hearing.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Such intiative can lighten the burden of information
>> commissions.We can hope for smooth RTI compliance now.
>>
>> With best wishes
>> Manoj K.Kamra
>> Bikaner
>>
>>
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