Re: [HumJanenge] district collector set new trend by penalising defaulting PIOs by 1000/- each

DEAR LESLIE
THAT IS VERY GOOD
REGARDS
DR.JN SHARMA

On 11/5/10, leslie almeida <leslie_almeida@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Baskar,
> Hope u received thru vichare courier my order passed to pay Rs 230
> to assessor and collectors office,as this is the season of Dovali, u may be
> busy, wish you and your family a happy & Prosperous Divali
> when you have time kindly send me the copy of the order passed by SIC on
> assessor and collector for payment of Rs 2
>
> I am also confused with hamjanange@google groups and hamjanange@yahoo
> groups,in my opnion i conclude that SIC cannot pass such order as it is not
> in complayance with RTI act, such things are done by consumer courts and
> other courts only because they have the powers to do so
>
> Rgds
> Leslie Almeida
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 23:08:58 +0530 wrote
>>Dear Mr.PMK,
> I am not interested in strategies that are applied but if the acts are
> illegal they are illegal. PIOs may be wrong but nothing can be on them which
> is illegal. So I wish on the board there need not be veiwpoints on the
> matter said but let there be what is correct or incorrect.
>
> If any body wants to take my camments may take it or leave it.
> But act be 1st appallate authority is illegal but I dont feel IAS will be a
> 1st appallate officer.
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM, PMK1504 wrote:
>
> Dear Bhaskar
>
> You have clearly regressed in RTI since I went away.
> If you had examined closely like I taught you would
>
> have remembered basic principles of estoppel and "double
> jeopardy".
>
> By imposing penalty of Rs.1,000 a corrupt IAS babu has
> allowed PIO to escape penalty of Rs 25,000.
>
> PMK
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Bhaskar Prabhu
> wrote:
>> This is totally illegal and just praising for illegal action is uncalled
>
>> for, there is no provision in RTI Act to do such voilative things showing
>> himself to be a Messiah. Only he could do was to call for an internal
>> departmental enquiry under service rule as RTI Act is work under service
>
>> rule. Central govt and many state govt have taken GRs for to call for an
>> departmental enquiry if the PIOs don't adder to RTI act and/or if
>> appellate
>> authority is not of that position then as appellate authority he need to
>
>> inform the concerned higher ups to call for the departmental enquiry and
>> this need to be entered service record, this can be prayed in 1st appeal
>> prcess. and this will be of very much use full as substantiating matter
>
>> for 2nd appeal with IC. 1st appellate authority can recommend to IC for
>> penalising the PIO. Even if the information is ordered to be given by Ist
>> appellate authority, penalty part can be appealed with IC as delay matter
>
>> remains pending. I feel PIO should go IC by appeal and ist appalate
>> authority should be educated on this matter.
>>
>> PIO need not go to court but need to be complain to IC and leave the
>> matter
>
>> to IC PIO can apeal for censoring of 1st appellate authority. In Maharstra
>> in the beginning many AA were doing these wrong things but we tell in each
>> of the workshop that ist appellate authority does not have any right to
>> levy
>
>> penalty under RTI but they can levy penalty under their provision service
>> rules after calling a enquiry for wrong conduct or work deficiency.
>>
>>
>> Inservice for RTI
>> Bhaskar
>> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
>
>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:13 AM, leslie almeida
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This order is Divali bonus must welcome, pendancy of 2nd appeal will come
>
>>> down drastically
>>>
>>> Leslie Almeida
>>>
>>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:54:40 +0530 wrote
>>> >GREAT. SUCH JUDGMENTS WIOLL HELP RTI.
>>> JOHAR
>>>
>>>
>
>>> On 3 November 2010 16:31, manoj wrote:
>>>
>>> Diwali Greetings-2010
>>>
>>> First time in india, any appellate authority have penalised
>>>
>>> defaulting
>
>>> PIOs.Bikaner district collector Dr.Prithvi Raj have set new trend by
>>> directing defaulting PIOs to deposit 1000/- each within two weeks and
>>> appear with deposit receipt in the court of first appeal hearing.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Such intiative can lighten the burden of information
>>> commissions.We can hope for smooth RTI compliance now.
>>>
>>> With best wishes
>>> Manoj K.Kamra
>
>>> Bikaner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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