Sunday, December 19, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Wajahat Habibullah is biggest traitor of RTI

Hi Sarabjit, you seem to have made some devastating discoveries!
 
The definition of government as given at http://www.answers.com/topic/government is
 
Political system by which a body of people is administered and regulated. Different levels of government typically have different responsibilities. The level closest to those governed is local government. Regional governments comprise a grouping of individual communities. National governments nominally control all the territory within internationally recognized borders and have responsibilities not shared by their subnational counterparts. Most governments exercise executive, legislative (see legislature), and judicial (see judiciary) powers and split or combine them in various ways. Some also control the religious affairs of their people; others avoid any involvement with religion. Political forms at the national level determine the powers exercised at the subnational levels; these have included autocracy, democracy, fascism, monarchy, oligarchy, plutocracy (government by the wealthy), theocracy, and totalitarianism.

Any reason why the government in a democracy should be non-transparent, anti-rti?

regards n bw
 
ravi


On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 8:09 AM, sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Nilesh

Disagreement is good and encouraged.  With regard to the second
statement, 'babu's are here to give us government. You can either be
"open" or you can have "government". The terms are mutually
exclusive. So in that sense RTI is an anti governance law. You are
free to disagree.

Sarbajit

On Dec 18, 1:39 am, nilesh suchdev <nilesh.such...@gmail.com> wrote:
> dear sarbajit,
>
> is it meant that anybody who disagrees is provoking...?!!!
> and one should be worried as the person in question is enforcer at the
> group?
>
> kindly clarify your stand on this.
>
> also, then, should the 'babus' be blamed for not being just, transparent,
> unbiased, open, or everything that RTI protects us against?
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:24 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately only "eminent" people can be appointed. (At least in
> > theory)
>
> > PS: I wouldn't provoke Mr Sharma if I were you. He is now an enforcer
> > at this group (which automatically makes him an enforcer at all the 3
> > RTI google groups).
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > Ravindran P M wrote:
> > > I do not agree with the proposal to make S N Mishra as CIC. His
> > appointment
> > > itself was corrupt as documents obtaind by PCRF had revealed. Somebody
> > like
> > > Krishnaraj Rao from Mumbai or Mahendra Gaur from Jaipur or Urvashi Sharma
> > > from Lucknow should be made CIC.
>
> > > regards n bw
>
> > > ravi
> > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:41 AM, S.D. Sharma <anonsha...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > Dear frends
>
> > > > Many thanks are due to Shri P.M.K for making me a moderator of this
> > group
> > > > also.
>
> > > > All decent citizens support and welcome move of Prime Minister with
> > support
> > > > of
> > > > Leader of Opposition and law Minister to recommend appointment of  Shri
> > > > Satya
> > > > Nand Mishra as next Chief Information Commissioner.
>
> > > > He is very honest and upright officer and well respected in Personnel
> > > > Ministry
> > > > where he has had long innings as Establishment Officer, Special
> > Secretary
> > > > and
> > > > then as Secretary. He is a Navratan from progressive state of Odishha
> > where
> > > > state level RTI is in very bad way.
>
> > > > There will be lot of pressure on S.N.Mishra from all quarters to
> > preside
> > > > over
> > > > weakening and dilution of the Act. There will be attempts by NGO
> > persons
> > > > and professional agitator class to attack 'babus' and 'judges' and
> > paint
> > > > them
> > > > all as corrupt and anti transparency. There shall be attempts by sadak
> > chap
> > > > people to challenge his appointment by Writ Petition to blackmail him
>
> > > > This is the time for all RTI users to publicly support Shri S.N.Mishra
> > > > against
> > > > the antiRTI forces.
>
> > > > I am so grateful to Shri P.M.K who has tasked me with mandate of
> > weeding
> > > > out all antiRTI forces from Humjanenge group. I beg to assure all
> > Honble
> > > > members that I shall discharge my duty with utmost devotion, humility
> > and
> > > > transparency..
>
> > > > S D Sharma

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