Wednesday, December 22, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: COMMENTS / OBJECTIONS / SUGGESTIONS : ref:PN/DoPT/OM/2010/RTI/AAA-0000-013

Dear Rami

Thanks for confirming what we suspected.

As I have previously posted to this group, Shailesh Gandhi was
acceptable to PM as an Information Commissioner because as an RTI
activist he had publicly made statements calling for proceedings of
the Central Information Commission to be

A) conducted without the farce of having an open hearing
B) If not, then oral submissions to be restricted to 7 minutes by the appellant
C) Orders to be dictated in advance by professional "appraisers" who
are paid Rs.200 per case. and so on. "

and in messages to RTI groups where he said

"If there is a need to observe the farce of a hearing, as per the
so-called principles of 'natural justice' enshrined in a Supreme Court
judgement, about 60 matters could be disposed on
one day and a farcical 'hearing' held, as is done in certain courts."

The public of India have a right to know why Shailesh Gandhi was
selected as an IC. Hence this message.

Sarbajit

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Raminder Singh
<ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Sarbjit
>
> I could not believe what you wrote about Government removing the right of
> citizens to be heard in person while their appeals are being decided at the
> Central Information Commission. I then re-read the new rules and discovered
> you are absolutely correct. Spoke to an Information Commissioner who says
> that the entire procedure and changes for Central Information Commission"s
> procedure are based on CIC response to the draft rules which CIC agreed to
> at their meeting. I then asked if Sailesh Gandhi had agreed to this, and
> learned that Gandhi had also given his assent to all the CIC proposals, and
> that this was actually one of Gandhi"s suggestions to increase the disposal
> rate at CIC.
>
> Raminder.
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:45 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear "JP"
>>
>> Many thanks for your kind words. The resistance is spreading. Just
>> today 2 stalwarts of RTI
>> movement have informed me that they are joining in to oppose these
>> rules. Mr.Babubhai Vaghela
>> of Ahmedabad with his entire e-group on google, and also Mr Muzib-ur-
>> Rehman who has
>> so many landmark RTI orders in his own matters.
>>
>> The biggest problem as I see it, is not the 250 word limit or 1
>> subject or forms for appeal etc
>> etc, or even the creation / institution of the Registry. It is this.
>>
>> BY these Rules:
>>
>> DoPT proposes to take away the fundamental right of an appellant to be
>> given opportunity of personal hearing and to confront his tormentors.
>> By these draft rules, if a 2nd appeal is admitted to the CI-
>> Commission, then the CIC can decide the appeal "in absentia", or by
>> calling the PIO or an advocate on behalf of the P/A and record their
>> submissions,
>> AND NO OPPORTUNITY WILL BE GIVEN TO THE APPELLANT TO REBUT OR SPEAK OR
>> BE HEARD.
>>
>> Natural justice and fairness has been thrown out of the window,.
>>
>> This is the worst kind censoprship, it is fascism, it recalls the dark
>> days of the Emergency, and it is high time
>> that the citizens speak up now, raise your voices, protest, or it will
>> be too late.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> On Dec 21, 10:43 pm, "jayaprakash dabral" <jp_dab...@rediffmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I find the intentions of Sarabjit to be very positive. Even if there is
>> > no change atleast the protest and resistance has started. A few more
>> > Sarabjits and a trend will start. Every revolution was started by one
>> > man.&nbsp;RegardsJP Dabral
>> >
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:40:11 +0530 H P wrote
>> >
>> > &gt;Sarabjit, do u think their intention will change?
>> >
>
>

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