Warm regards,
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From: "Rajesh A. Pandey" <rajeshapandey@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 04:05:43 +0000
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For the guidance & understanding the challenge we are facing.
Have received very good & valuable suggestions from members of HumJanenge. I will put all the views across to the active members of our apex body & decide the next steps in consultation with them.
We will keep updating the steps taken & outcomes on the group. Am sure we would try to reach a solution to the challenge being faced.
Warm regards,
Rajesh A. Pandey
Thane, Maharashtra,
India.
rajeshapandey@gmail.com
# +91-9833377777
Repeat, Review, Reuse. Most important, Recycle for better tomorrow.
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:33:02 +0000
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Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] First Time: Need Help!
1. How can we get rid of the encroachment using the RTI?
Please write a letter/petition to Thane Municipal Council along with photographic and video graphic evidence of encroachment supported by statements of at least two eye witness and if possible secretary and chairman of each society buildings.
Then follow it up vigorously through RTI to know what action has been taken by Municipal Authorities to evacuate the illegal encroachment.
2. Can we use RTI to convert the reservation on the land from Resettlement for Displaced to Green Zone?
You may ask through RTI to know the norms for converting land reserved for displaced to Green Zone. Once you know the norms and if you feel you can abide by those norms then again write a letter/petition and follow it up through RTI.
3. How can we force the local body which is Thane Municipal Council to atleast clear whatever is available & create a boundary around the space?
Its a criminal offence to encroach upon Govt. Land. With all supporting proofs of encroachment make a petition praying that it is in the larger public interest that Thane Municipal Council must clear or create a boundary around the space. Again follow up the Petition through RTI to know what steps the Municipal council has taken.
Mr. Roy have you ever visited Thane suburbs? Do you know what is a housing society?? Do you know how encroachment happens in Thane and Mumbai by unscrupulous Builders?
I am sure enough that without appreciating facts, situations and without even applying your brain you suggested the below points to Mr. Pandey to which I am answering:
1) Why are you trying to selfishly impose your middle class views on a statutory planning process ?
Mr. Pandey is trying to save a piece of Govt. Land which is slowly being encroached by unscrupulous builders.
Now how Mr. Pandey is trying to selfishly imposing his middle class views on a statutory planning process? He wants to use RTI in a larger public interest.
2) If a site is shown as "land for dispossessed" then ought it not to be used for that purpose ?
How and why you have assumed or presumed that if the land has marked for dispossed has to be used for that purpose even though lakhs of people will live without any greenery or park because the stupid statutory planning process happened hand in gloves with the builder?
3) Town Planning is a holistic multi-layer heirarchial process. Myopic interference by ignorant people is the bane of professional planners with decades of experience and all the qualifications to match.
These poetic words are devoid of any substance rather highlights your ignorance about the corruption that is happening in town planning process of Thane.
This is a member intervention cautioning you the Moderator from demoralizing members by jumping into conclusion without even knowing or appreciating facts and giving misleading suggestion .
Best Regards,
CS Arun Dash
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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:42:54 +0530
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Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] First Time: Need Help!
1) Why are you trying to selfishly impose your middle class views on a statutory planning process ?
2) If a site is shown as "land for dispossessed" then ought it not to be used for that purpose ?
3) Town Planning is a holistic multi-layer heirarchial process. Myopic interference by ignorant people is the bane of professional planners with decades of experience and all the qualifications to match.
Sarbajit
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Rajesh A. Pandey <rajeshapandey@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends @ Hum Janenge,
Greetings!!
I am using this forum for the first time to seek help & guidance from all of you for a small issue that touches the lives of around 450 Families in a small but growing town called Thane in Maharashtra.
We live in housing complex of 13 buildings in the outskirts of Thane city near Upvan Lake. For approximately 3500 residents & adjoining settlements/gaonthan, we do not have a designated park or an open designated space.
We have an open space surrounded by our buildings designated as "Land for Displaced" with an area of around 3000 Sq. Meters in government records. This space has been slowly encroached by local shanties & a local builder has kept his men on the land.
However major portion of the land is still open & we want to use this as public play ground or convert it into a park for which the apex body is ready to contribute. Currently we are maintaining the remaining open space as a small ground.
I want to know:
1. How can we get rid of the encroachment using the RTI?
2. Can we use RTI to convert the reservation on the land from Resettlement for Displaced to Green Zone?
3. How can we force the local body which is Thane Municipal Council to atleast clear whatever is available & create a boundary around the space?
Need Help!!!
Warm regards,
Rajesh A. Pandey
Thane, Maharashtra,
India.
rajeshapandey@gmail.com
# +91-9833377777
Repeat, Review, Reuse. Most important, Recycle for better tomorrow.
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