Re: [HumJanenge] First Time: Need Help!

Dear Arun

1) If you cared to research you would find that I have participated in many Urban Planning processes and ensured that my opinions have been taken into account, including by use of RTI.

2) If Mr Pandey wants to save Govt land from encroachers he does not need RTI to do so. He can very well register a FIR or inform a magistrate if he has specific information. RTI is a cowards way and is not an "alternate remedy" to address this problem. RTI is not a grievance redressal tool.

3) Mr Pandey's motives are very clear - he himself wants to encroach / usurp land meant for people disposssed to put up the very same apartment blocks he now stays in and convert it into a private.park / playground for the rich. Where will the disposses people go / stay ? India is now a SOCIALIST  republic and Mr Pandey would be well advised to respect the rights of his fellow citizens.

4) Insofar as the "stupid statutory planning process" is concerned. It is the stupid citizens who fail to properly utilise their statutory options who are half the cause. Having failed to use these chances it is pointless to go whining / whingeing on forums like ours.
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5) The purpose of forums liek HJ / RTI4emp are to STRENGTHEN our members and train them to use Goivt processes properly. Govt can (and does) work if they are approached properly. It is CAs and CSs etc who have a vested interest in projecting that systems / processes are corrupt and that touts (like them) are required to get things managed.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:03 AM, <csindelin@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr. Roy have you ever visited Thane suburbs? Do you know what is a housing society?? Do you know how encroachment happens in Thane and Mumbai by unscrupulous Builders?

I am sure enough that without appreciating facts, situations and without even applying your brain you suggested the below points to Mr. Pandey to which I am answering:

1) Why are you trying to selfishly impose your middle class views on a statutory planning process ?

Mr. Pandey is trying to save a piece of Govt. Land which is slowly being encroached by unscrupulous builders.
Now how Mr. Pandey is trying to selfishly imposing his middle class views on a statutory planning process? He wants to use RTI in a larger public interest.

2) If a site is shown as "land for dispossessed" then ought it not to be used for that purpose ?

How and why you have assumed or presumed that if the land has marked for dispossed has to be used for that purpose even though lakhs of people will live without any greenery or park because the stupid statutory planning process happened hand in gloves with the builder?

3) Town Planning is a holistic multi-layer heirarchial process. Myopic interference by ignorant people is the bane of professional planners with decades of experience and all the qualifications to match.

These poetic words are devoid of any substance rather highlights your ignorance about the corruption that is happening in town planning process of Thane.


This is a member intervention cautioning you the Moderator from demoralizing members by jumping into conclusion without even knowing or appreciating facts and giving misleading suggestion .

Best Regards,
CS Arun Dash