Re: [HumJanenge] Re: CCS to discuss including Indian Armed Forces under Lokpal etc

We agree that such moral delinquency in the armed forces is no less than  treason . The two ex COAS  in land scam cases reflects  the debility in Indian society where money and self prosperity has become the driving force for existence  warping basic values. Irony it is Indian Generals now shaming the profession of arms what could be worse and better for others to laugh at. Such people do not qualify to run a nation who have no trace of honour , loyalty,  pride without which human species is no better than earthworms . The least that was expected was for the government to anull  pensions of these Generals  pending further action .The malady is  reflective of deep burrows in Indian character or what is left of it paradoxically with back drop of surge and climactic rise in religious facade in self deception  in the majority ie Hindu component  which should have been setting the standards  with so many moral healers living  God men at their disposal . Indians are endemically corrupt since we attended more to surving long history of slavery under a handful who ruled and remain so even  today for which we never fought !  Its fiction and hog wash to be pinning hope in Lok Pal when the whole edifice of character has collapsed. He will end up as being different from all the Pals we have in the seemingly quite  elaborate system of checks and balances still in place devised by the colonial masters for his brown slaves and perpetuated by his lackeys . The whole edifice whould have been demolished in 47 along with its operators  who still occupy their seats in various garbs.

One can keep debating another skill which kills time !

chauhan

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Mukund Apte

To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com

Cc: Col JPSharma ; Inderjit Singh Gill ; Ravindra Pathak

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:24 PM

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: CCS to discuss including Indian Armed Forces under Lokpal etc

      Dear Sir,
      These people should be treated like traitors only. Mere 'indiscipline' is not correct description of this criminal act, don't you agree sir? I was thinkling junior officers like Majors were mot involved in such rackets. But this Captain has shown his capacity, isn't it?
      With regards to all,
      -----Mukund Apte

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Inderjit Singh Gill <isgill48@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Col Kurup,

 

GCM is the right choice.

 

You were lucky to get a sword atleast.

 

I believe people with links, could manage more than one, and of their choice.

 

Some one commented on 2 Lt Gens, well, one is about to face music in SUKNA case, he is the same chap, who was IMTRAT Head, when this practice started of getting stuff from Bhutan and disposing off in Rajasthan.

Incidently, where were you in B'desh? I was on Dinajpur- Rangpur - Bogra sector.

 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote:

These officers definitely deserve punishment. One will be surprised if
a probe is done how most of them could get these weapons allotted in
their names.  While serving at Delhi 35 years back I knew a case of an
officer getting more than one pistol allotted. Generally Officers with
no approach to W&E Directorate cannot ever dream of getting a weapon
In case they get it will be those weapons one won't be able to possess
after retirement which of course will not have any market demand. I
was part of the Forces that captured  huge amount of weapons from
Bengladesh during 1971 War. Despite best of repeated  efforts even I
could not get a weapon. When pested them with facts and figures, all I
could get was a Sword on payment which i still possess.

On 07/07/2011, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Court-martial-likely-against-27-serving-Army-officers/articleshow/9131270.cms
>
> "Court martial likely against 27 serving Army officers"
> NEW DELHI: In an unprecedented move, the Army is on the verge of
> ordering stringent action, in all probability general court martial,
> against 27 officers for illegally selling off weapons procured for
> their personal use. It is for the first time in the Army's history
> that so many serving officers, in this case lieutenant colonels and
> colonels, are facing such serious action.
>
> But WHAT ABOUT THE 2 former Lieut Generals who committed the identical
> offence ??
>
>
> On Jul 6, 10:38 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The CCS (Cabinet Committee on Security) and/or EGOM is to examine whether
>> the Armed Forces should be brought under ambit of LokPal Act or taken out
>> of
>> RTI Act u/s 24 like the CBI (there is now a strong case considering
>> Military
>> Intelligence functions of the 3 service wings). This is in the context of
>> a
>> note to the PM circulated by some Chief Justices which inter-alia refers
>> to
>> the inconsistency of applicability of RTI Act to our Armed Forces.whilst
>> keeping armed forces out of Lokpal scrutiny.
>> The need for amending / harmonising the various Armed Forces Acts.(Army
>> Act,
>> Navy Act etc) is also likely to be discussed.
>>
>> Views of our members with services background is requested.

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      With regards to all,
      ------Mukund Apte