Re: [HumJanenge] “Dear RTI Activist, please solve my problem for free”

Veteran Inderjit Singh Gill,

This group is not a paid service provider; but a group of dedicated
selfless RTI Activists. You are most welcome to join this group and
can clarify all your doubtson RTI from the learned and otherwise well
placed members of this group. I could not understand how your Industry
provide substantial amount to the local municipality voluntarily . You
cannot claim your payment by way taxes due as your contribution as
without paying such dues your Industry may not be eligible to earn its
lively-hood from the Muncicipal location.

On 04/07/2011, Inderjit Singh Gill <isgill48@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am a veteran Defence Services officer, working in industry located at
> Pithampur in Dist DHAR, MP.
>
> The industries are paying a substantial amount to local muncipality by way
> of annual taxes, with no control
> on planning and execution of developmental / other projects in our area.
> Mind you, 'industrial units' are the
> major contributors of finances to this civic body.
>
> In case, some one has details of a RTI activist(s) in Indore / Dhar / Mhow
> etc, so that we can contact them
> for obtaining this information, it will help us to plan our future
> action(s). Or please guide how to search for one on net.
>
> Thanking you and looking forward to your inputs.
>
> Regards
>
> Col IS Gill, Veteran
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:02 AM, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please use the attached format for filing the appeal/complaint
>> regards
>>
>> On 7/1/11, sandeep kumar <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I will be helping you file a complaint as well as second appeal.
>> > regards
>> > sandeep
>> >
>> > On 7/1/11, AVTAR SINGH <avtarsingh119@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Sarabjit Roy,
>> >>
>> >> I am a rertired officer from defence.
>> >> I along with 200 officers have won our case regarding pension at three
>> >> different benches of AFT,
>> >> The plea has been identical and judgement similar. The judgement was
>> >> delivered on 16 Sep 2010,1 Nov 2011 and 25 Nov 2011.
>> >>
>> >> Though the stipulated period of three/four months has elapsed we have
>> not
>> >> got our dues.
>> >>
>> >> One of our fellow ranling officers who was not a petitioner have have
>> >> filed
>> >> two RTIS on 15 and a6 marcg 2011.
>> >>
>> >> The reminder for this was sent as first appeal to the appellate
>> authority
>> >> on
>> >> 15 may 2011 and 18 June 2011
>> >>
>> >> We now propose to file second appeal to CIC.
>> >>
>> >> Can you suggest some expert of RTI around Delhi who could assist us in
>> >> filing second appeal to CIC.
>> >>
>> >> regards
>> >>
>> >> Avtar Singh
>> >> 1-7-2011
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 07:03:48 +0530
>> >> Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] "Dear RTI Activist, please
>> >> solve
>> >> my problem for free"
>> >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> >> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>> >>
>> >> Dear Karira ("rtiwanted")
>> >>
>> >> Many thanks for finally getting Mr Krishnaraj Rao to openly admit that
>> he
>> >> is
>> >> in the business of filing RTI applications and negotiating deals to
>> >> "defend"
>> >> people's assets for a charge. The bonafides of his so-called RTI Users
>> >> Association are completely exposed by this statement.
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, if we recall his "hunger strike" at Anna's vilage of Ralegaon
>> >> Siddhi, it is quite obvious that he is only trying to replicate (in his
>> >> own
>> >> small way) Anna's own "business" model.
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I condemn such commercial minded people who are a blot on
>> the
>> >> RTI moivement, the less we interact with them the better. At
>> >> HumJanenge-Googlegroups we are trying to make this a group for selfless
>> >> people who freely asisst each other to further the RTI movement for
>> >> nation
>> >> building.
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Krishnaraj Rao
>> >> <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear Jam,
>> >>
>> >> My conclusion is:
>> >>
>> >> 1) RTI activists/experts should reasonably charge private parties whose
>> >> assets they defend, provided the parties are capable of bearing the
>> >> charge.
>> >>
>> >> 2) In private matters where there is a very large element of public
>> >> interest, they may consider not charging.
>> >>
>> >> 3) They should not charge citizens who are working for public interest.
>> >> In
>> >> fact, for such citizens, they should go out of their way to help with
>> >> time
>> >> and monetary resources.
>> >>
>> >> 4) For ensuring the health of the RTI movement, they have a multiple
>> >> responsibility. They have to act in such a way that:
>> >> a) Public Interest is paramount in all that they do or say.
>> >> b) People who uphold public interest remain in good financial health.
>> >> c) Private parties get good quality service and growing numbers of
>> >> service-providers (paid) or guidance-providers (free) to choose from.
>> >> d) There is plenty of self-help knowledge available in the public
>> >> domain
>> >> so
>> >> that people take the paid services out of free choice, and not because
>> of
>> >> lack of access to information.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your interest in this discussion.
>> >>
>> >> Warm Regards,
>> >> Krish
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> **
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>> Krishnaraj,
>> >>>
>> >>> So, what is your conclusion ?
>> >>>
>> >>> Should RTI activists/helpers/consultants/experts/etc charge citizens
>> >>> or
>> >>> not
>> >>> ?
>> >>
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