Saturday, November 20, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: CIC minutes of meeting

Dear all,

I tend to agree with Naveen. We need to be professional. We should shoot the message and not the messenger. I for one has been following this in all discussions. I have dealt in the past with Mr. Prakash Kardaley and others on this principle.

Using uncivil or fowl language is not in the best interest of such a respectable group, irrespective of who are the founders / moderators / members. Ultimately it is the present members who have to decide on civility or else quit with no other option left as rightly stated by Naveen.

I propose to put to vote:

A. How many would like to see / read, civil language / communication in this site?

B. How many would like to see / read uncivil / impolite language / communication in this site?

I vote for A (count 1).

I invite and request all to please vote and add the count to A or B as per your choice.

With no ill will to anyone

Best,

Kris Dev
Social Activist, Chennai
0 98 408 52132.


On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:32 PM, sroy1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Tewari

"This network" as you refer to it, is claimed to be a memorial to Mr Prakash Kardaley. Mr Kardaley incidentally was the brain behind the "Save RTI Sack CIC" movement of which Mr Habibullah was the sole target. All the emails in this connection are available in the archives of the HumJanenge Yahoogroup and it is quite amusing to
remember the pranks and antics (and language) Mr Kardaley's monkey brigade used to get up to.

The organisers of this network, being pioneering founders of the monkey brigade and deeply concerned about the fate of RTI in India if left solely in the hands of the monkeys, had sought my assistance in setting up / managing this e-group, as  apparently I am the only RTI
personality left who can be as abusive or arrogant or pigheaded than the late Mr Kardaley.

BTW, Mr Habibullah has already commented on my usage of certain unflattering (but not abusive) terms on these "blogs" in one of his decisions as CIC. So in sum, I think it would be much better if we left the decision on what is acceptable here, or not, to the owners of this group. The link to unsubscribe BTW, is the same one you used to
subscribe here.

Warmly
Sarbajit

On Nov 20, 2:28 am, nct....@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Mr Sarabjit,
>
> I do not know you well enough but have chanced upon a few mails shot off by you on this network. I would like to request you to keep some decorum and civility when you are writing pieces which are read by a large number of people. Sometimes the language that you use is very harsh and improper, to say the least. If you continue this kind of at unseemly expression, at least I would like to be out of the network.
>
> Sincerely
> Naveen tewari
> Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sroy1947 <sroy1...@gmail.com>
>
> Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:03:08
> To: HumJanenge RTI India Right to Information Act 2005<HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Reply-To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: CIC minutes of meeting
>
> Actually sir, its an  old charge, publicly made, and backed up with
> the CIC's own datahttp://old.nabble.com/Is-there-a-Lazy-Bum-at-the-CIC---ts29564164.htm...
>
> Incidentally, some RTI activists thought the term "lazy bum" referred
> to Shailesh Gandhi
> who was slacking off in disposing his cases per CIC statistics.
>
> My apologies for my rudeness.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Nov 20, 12:49 am, wajahat <whabibul...@nic.in> wrote:
> > How rude Er Roy. And a new charge of laziness long after the event!
> > Wajahat
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: sroy 1947 <sroy1...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:50 am
> > Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC minutes of meeting
> > To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> > Well it certainly looks as though CIC(ANT) is making up for lost time and undoing all the damage a certain publicity crazy lazy bum did in his 5 years as CIC. The non-publication of the Annual Reports was entirely due to Pankaj Shreyaskar, and I hope that CIC(ANT) places some observations against him in his ACR.
>
> > Observe also how IC(SM) is now placed higher than IC(AD) in the pecking order.
>
> > Sarbajit
>
> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:08 AM, PMK1504 <humjanenge.ow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes09112010.pdf
>
> > Minutes of the Meeting held on 9 11 10
>
> > Present:
> > Sri A N Tiwari, Chief Information Commissioner
> > Sri Stayanand Mishra, Information Commissioner
> > Smt Annapurna Dixit, Information Commissioner
> > Sri M L Sharma, Information Commissioner
> > Smt Deepak Sandhu, Information Commissioner
> > Secretary and officers assisted the Commission.
>
> > Agenda 1: ATR on the MoM dated 02.11.2010
> > Noted.

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