RE: [IAC#RG] Loosing hope for Veterans Memorial Park

ARE BHAI AAP ESHA KYA KAAM KAR RAHE HO JISE SE JANTA AAP SE JUDE YE SAB KUCHA JANTE HUYE BHI APNI MARWANE TULI HUYI HAI KAHE KO AAPNA SAMAY KHARCHA KRTE HO JISKA SABSE ACHA EXA. KARNATKA CHUNAV HAI KI ITNA BHRESTACHAR DEKHA DE HUYE BHI JANTA NE CONGRESS KO VOTE DIYA OR BEMATLAB SAMAY BARBAD YE JANTA HAI JO KUCHA NAHI KAR SAKTI SIRF .................................................... R.K.SENGAR --- On Wed, 8/5/13, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Loosing hope for Veterans Memorial Park To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> Date: Wednesday, 8 May, 2013, 5:05 PM Mr. Sarabjit Roy,s elucidation creates more confusion than clarification. Till recently he was a staunch supporter of RTI for eradicating corruption.Not so now.Regds   Self proclaimed statements regading loss of BJP in Karnataka have to be taken with a pinch of salt. Regds JKGaur  Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 16:06:34 +0545 From: k.barthwal@gmail.com To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Loosing hope for Veterans Memorial Park Mr. Sarabjit Roy What do you mean by that you eliminate BJP from Karnataka? why this स्वांत सुखाय type feeling you are having?? and would you explain, what IAC is? and when did it formed?? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Mr. Kalyan Sundaresan You are a confused person, so let me educate you. 1) This Dr. Arun Kumar, Anna Hazare, Gen V.K.Singh etc etc are not part of India Against Corruption (IAC). 2) You really have no idea of IAC or what it is or what IAC is doing for nation building. We are not fools to disclose our plans and operations publicly. 3) This mailing list is not directly connected with operational side of IAC or its parent HRA. It is one of many forums used by patriots and HRA to propagate patriotic Indian views and stand of HRA from time to time and educate some people. 4) RTI and consumer nonsense.are a complete waste of time to achieve anything. IAC does not endorse these kind of useless methods. 5) IAC dictates terms all too clearly to political parties which keep begging for our votes. 6) IAC believes in eliminating corruption wherever it is found. Today IAC has just helped in eliminating BJP in Karnataka. Tomorrow IAC can eliminate, say, Congress in Delhi - IAC only decides which is the lesser corruption. IAC is APOLITICAL which means IAC has the best knowledge of local trends and voting patterns down to booth/block levels so that IAC can eliminate maximum corruption with least efforts. Knowledge is power supreme, and our superior knowledge allows IAC to leverage its strength very well indeed. 7) Why should IAC eliminate only 1 or 2 corrupt netas to prove its bonafides to media or anyone else, when we clean them ALL out at regular intervals ?? 8) As long as there are institutions like Parliament, Vidhan Sabhas and Courts there will always be corruption. All you people who believe in them and so called "good candidates" and "clean judges" and "honest media" are fools. 9) BJP did not lose Karnataka because of Bellary brothers or Yedu factor, these are only excuses.. BJP had no option but to loot Karnataka to stay as a National Party. As an APOLITICAL person who has poll data at fingertips I say they made a very bad mistake allowing Modi to campaign for BJP in Karnataka. Modi's campaigning cost BJP at least 12 seats in Karnataka which were all transferred to Deve Gowda by 2-6% margins in central Karnataka . Think about it - I am neither pro-Modi nor anti-Modi, I only work with pure numbers. Sarbajit National Convenor India Against Corruption On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Dear Dr. Kumar Arun, That is because, as you rightly visually, the shine on the IAC is dissipating.  IAC Members expected action packed decisions from IAC to root out corruption. Very large, large, medium and small scale corruption is still going on throughout the country daily.  By this time, IAC should have brought to books some corrupt people either Politicians or Others.  Nothing of that sort had happened so far.  IAC is just contended with sending RTI Letters and debating on issues not connected with rooting out  Corruption by exchanging email messages.  By this time, IAC should have developed contacts with atleast 30% of the total Electorates in the Country so that IAC  Members will have a say on the Election and it will create nightmarish impression to corrupt Politicians.  IAC is lacking in action based programmes.  I don't think, it will serve any purpose in rooting out corruption.  Even as a Non-Political Organisation with dedicated Members only with a goal of rooting out Corruption,  IAC can dictate terms to the Political parties. Unfortunately,  the IAC is not functioning on that direction.  Mere writing letters to Mr. Pranab Mukherjee, Ms. Sonia Gandhi, Mr. Manmohan Singh, Sri P. Chidambaram, will have any impact on rooting out corruption.  The mails will go their junk box and letters will reach the Dust Bin.   In US, there was one Consumarist by name Radolf Nadar whose presence or appearance in any shop, the Traders afraid.  He buys consumer goods with Bill and Batch No. and send to the Govt. approved Lab. for testing the same.  If the test  failed to meet the specifications mentioned on the label, he will immediately file a case against the Shop Owner for selling spurious consumer goods.  Within a short time, the Consumer Court will decide and the Shop Owner will be booked for selling spurious consumer goods and punished heavily and also impressioned for considerable period.  Such a Consumer Activists are not available in India.  The MRP Regulators, Drug Controllers, Food Cell Inspectors and other Inspectorates to ensure quality products are all most corrupt.  Most of the Consumer goods, we buy are all spurious as there is no mechanism to check their quality, quantity and MRP. The Manufacturers, Marketing Agencies and Regulators of Inspectorates to ensure fair trade are all in connivance with each other.  So, we cannot expect anything other than corruption in the country.  I don't know who is going to bell the cat to root out corruption in the country.   To-day, at Karnataka, Congress is voted to power with thumping majority.  Thanks to BJP misrule.  The Congress is no better than BJP.  But, the Electorate preferred Congress since BJP totally misruled the State with rampant corruption. If BJP is really concerned about corruption, they should have sacked Eddyurappa as CM the movement Scams started pouring/ appearing against him and dissolved the Assembly as they had no majority in the House. Similarly, Reddy Brothers (BJP MLAs from Bellary) have been illegally mining Millions of Tonnes of Iron Ore for many years.  BJP cannot say, they don't know about this.  Because Reddy Brothers are lavishly taking care of BJP bigwigs like Advani, Sushma, Jaitly, etc., etc., BJP pretend to claim ignorance (Reddy Brothers spent more Rs. 200 Crores for a Wedding in their family at Bellary about 4 years back) BJP should have suspended the Reddy Brothers from the Party and distances themselves from them at that time itself.   But, till the Scam exposed by Whistle Blowers, they were continue to be BJP MLAS and still continue to be in BJP.  The Bellary Iron Ore Scam is very much similar  to Coalgate. Now, the BJP is shouting about Coalgate, why they have not reprimanded Reddy Brothers when they started doing illegal iron ore mining and exported.  This Scam is from Taluk/District level to Collector of Central Excise, Sales Tax Authorities, Railways as a Transporter, Port Authorities at Goa, Collector of Customs at Goa, Ship Owner, C& F  Agency who exported the illegally mined Iron Ore etc., etc., , are all involved.  The Booties have been shared by all with the blessings of Department of Mines at Central and State Govts. When the Reddy Brothers lavishly spending at the Wedding and Temples itself is a clear pointer for illegal activities.  Since all concerned were in the payrolls of Reddy Brothers, all concerned pretend to be ignorant of all illegal activities. To-day,  the BJP paid the price for their alleged ignorance on Reddy Brothers and Yeeyrurappa.  As long as there are no Agencies/Regulators/Inspectorates/Authorities  with impeccable integrity in the Govt.   to question the illegal activities, corruption will continue to go on rampant in the country.    With Best Regards, A.S.KALYANAM --- On Wed, 8/5/13, Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com> Subject: Loosing hope for Veterans Memorial Park To: "Kumar Arun" <kumar2786@hotmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 8 May, 2013, 5:14 AM Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" Exit: "indiaresists-unsubscribe@lists.riseup.net" Quit: "https://lists.riseup.net/www/signoff/indiaresists" Help: https://help.riseup.net/en/list-user WWW : http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in -- kishor barthwal Astt. 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