Saturday, December 8, 2012

Re: [IAC++] Disrespect for an old man (Anna)

Dear All
Barring all the disrespectful words for Anna & his team, I can only say that in future there would certainly be more enlightened souls who would cast their votes in future with everything what Anna said in their minds. And this is what was missing. A very +ve contribution indeed!!!
Vijoy Ambasta

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
well, while the abuse is graceless, the hallmark of "Team Anna"
(current and ex) as been shooting their mouths off to the press till
everyone has totally lost track of what all they said.

There was a time when residents of localities marched around in
solidarity for them. I know some offices that formally extended lunch
time to go around the building shouting random patriotic and Team Anna
slogans.

From there to here is a well earned fall.

The supporters rallied strongly and were a solid wall between any
possible attack on him, because they were protecting what they saw as
*their* interest. Then started the grand gestures. The committee was
formed. People were skeptical. The arrogance started, and the belief
that they were saviors, rather than containers for the people's
interest. Then came the bizarre statements. Reckless is about the only
way you could describe them.

Approval of Modi, comment on Sharad Pawar's (well deserved) slap,
accusations against politicians, brazen statements without substance.
They were no longer the quiet, modest, non-violent people enacting
belief in an idea of Satyagraha. And then they were all over the
place. Campaigning against parties in elections, guests on children's
talent shows, talk shows... you name it. The supporters got fatigued
from defending the constant barrage of bizarre.

Anna seemed to realize this. He even tried moun vrats. It was too
little, too late.

Kiran Bedi put a major nail in the coffin of their credibility with
her arrogance over those expenses exposed. She may not have seen it as
corruption, but it was, and she totally failed to be graceful. She
insisted she was innocent and being framed and these small things were
normal, expected.... but hey, slipping fifty to the traffic cop is
also expected. Heck it is practically tradition here!

It is possible for everyone to make mistakes. However integrity
demands an apology and admitting. Kiran paid back the money, but her
credibility was dead. A simple thing like "I did not look at it like
this. I didn't realize. It is corruption too. I am returning the money
and will be more careful from now on" would have worked far better
than "it is understood, everyone does it" etc.

The misogyny was another big no-no. And so on.

The point is that they have talked so much, that people are totally
confused. It is not just the IAC list. The "mass support" no longer
bets their own credibility on their honesty.

So there is anger against Anna for disappointing. Anna isn't a
strategist. He doesn't deserve that anger, but feelings are not
logical. His disapproval of Kejriwal disturbs the "crowd", because
they would like to feel that earlier certainty and confidence of being
together and on the right track.

It is tragic, but it cannot be helped.

Raising the voting age won't help. You got 60 year olds talking
exactly like this too.

Vidyut



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> The tragedy of Anna Hazare is that he getting shafted today by the same
> youngsters he so chased after
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Anna-hazare-says-he-will-not-vote-for-arvind-kejriwals-aam-aadmi-part.../1041307/
>
> Anna's crime :- saying he would not vote for AAP on principled (Gandhian)
> grounds
>
> Please read the comments. (examples below)
>
> "Anna is a "snake in the grass .. He is becoming a shame for the nation"
> "What is wrong with this old fellow, what is all this "on" & "off" game that
> he is playing?"
> "AH Wake up this is 2012 not 1945 .. If Kejriwal is after power and money so
> be it . .. All you can do is go on a fast which nobody supports now .."
> "Who the hell is he? He is just an illiterate old man who thinks that he can
> change the world by his bizarre methodology. "
>
> This is every reason to propose that the voting age is raised to 25 years.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
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