1) You can rest assured that our first / foremost / priority is to see that RTI process is preserved, strengthened and implemented properly FOR BENEFIT OF CITIZENS. This point is non-negotiable and every action of mine and others associated with these groups will be tested rigorously on the touchstone of this fundamental principle.
2) We are not "hitting" out any anybody. A recent situation has arisen concerning the role of NAC and Ms Aruna Roy in particular concerning the amendments to RTI Rules which many of us had opposed / commented on. It now transpires that Ms Aruna Roy's comments are going to be given preferential treatment over those of the common citizens. Whereas all our comments are in the public domain, the NAC's are not. Since public funds are involved, citizens have a right to know the complete details of NAC / Aruna Roy's functioning. I have applied to NAC in RTI, the information being given to me in driblets is shocking. As you know I place my emails to NAC to this group also.
3) Finally, I am ready, able and willing to discuss these matters with either Ms Aruna Roy, or anyone authorised and briefed to speak for her on any public unmoderated e-platform/mailing list. If there is any public email platform/list she is on, I am prepared to join it. Despite diligent searches I cannot find any public group she is presently on. As is also now evident she has no dearth of friends on this group who can communicate my concerns to her. As moderator here I am also clarifying that Ms Aruna Roy is welcome to use the resources of HumJanenge to communicate with RTI stakeholders properly, and considering also that HJ-GG is now India's largest RTI mailing list.
4) I am now waiting to see who is a Lion and who is a mouse.
Sarbajit
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:54 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
It would be better to concentrate on issues rather than hitting one and all. AppealMr. S. Ray to give his best out of his deep knowledge and refrain to waste his talent on pretty issues. One forest can house so many lions and now Myans can also be made which can contain more than one Talwar (Sword).We have to achieve bigger goals and every body has an idea about these. The first and formost is to fight the attempt of dillution of RTI Act.-- On Fri, 21/1/11, Pushkar Raj <puclnat@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Pushkar Raj <puclnat@yahoo.com>Date: Friday, 21 January, 2011, 9:48 AM
Lets use these forums to unite to fight the issues at hand- corruption, inefficency and marginalisation of institutions at the highest level........and not level charges that are flimsy, or perhaps ideologically motivated.......... we must not forget that given the contemporary discourse of human rights in the country, majority of human rights defenders/ activists/ academics in the country may easily be dubbed as maoists and the state will not hesitate to further tarnish their image by implicating them in one way or the other in some cases or heresay in order that power that be could go on with its acts of ommission and commission with impunity. there can be no sader a state for a country when a violent ideology (Maoism) and human rights work is considered synoymous !
Pushkar Raj
General Secretary, PUCL
All the Human Rights - All the Time
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--- On Thu, 20/1/11, Mathew Thomas <mathew.111938@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Mathew Thomas <mathew.111938@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] "Bunker Roy's wife Aruna Roy, is a Maoist"
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Indu Prakash" <indu@igsss.net>, indupragya@gmail.com
Received: Thursday, 20 January, 2011, 10:45 PM
Why is this group discussing individual personalities? Could we discuss issues?Does anyone have any facts on issues that Aruna Roy is handling? Does anyone have any differences with her views?Regards,Mathew
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:09 PM, indu prakash singh <indupragya@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr. S D Sharma,Your writing about Aruna Roy is totally fallacious. We've known her for long.What you claim is a total rubbish. And how high ever it may go, it lands only in the dustbin. Pl. stop tarnishing images of people like Aruna Roy. The entire RTI movement is due to her and MKSS. Have you forgotten this. i don't understand your rationale for this diatribe.prayers for humility to prevail!indu prakash singh
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On 20 January 2011 12:01, Malay Dewanji <malaydewanji@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. S. D. Sharma,I have gone through your mail. As far as I know the idea of rai harvesting belonged to Mr. Sanjit Bunker Roy and the professional architect called Neehar just put it on the paper . It happens everywhere and the credit must go to the original thinker.However, I do not want any debate with you regarding this.But some of languages show that you are a Hindu High caste Brhmyanabadi person and therefore, I protest against your statement about Mr. and Mrs Roy. I personally know Mrs. Aruna Roy, former IAS and a dedicated Social Activist, who relentlessly fought in favour of agricultural labourers and as a result of her tireless effort, RTI Act had been passed in India. Though I do not believe now in Marxism and Maoism, but I believe that many activities of Mr. and Mrs. Roy are very much helpful to the development and empowerment of the poor and oppressed. All the people of India must extend full support towards their humanitarian effort.With all best wishes.Yours sincerelyMalay DewanjiEditor, GANABIKASHA Bengali News Magazine.On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:42 PM, S.D. Sharma <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Bunker Roy's wife Aruna Roy, is a Maoist"
http://cms.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Articles&ArticleID=7756
"One Sanjit 'Bunker' Roy was given a prize by the Aga Khan foundation for having developed rainwater harvesting structures. Later investigations by The Week clearly revealed that he had hired a professional architect called Neehar Raina to get the job done. Upon this exposure, Aga Khan Foundation changed its citation to fit in with the known facts! A secularly shameless non-communal Roy, ended up by returning his prize. Bunker Roy's wife Aruna Roy, is a Maoist and has worked closely with AID. Like many who have worked closely with AID in its undeclared mission of national subversion, she too has been awarded a prize by the Ramon Magsaysay Foundation."
"AID is a secretive organisation which enjoys the full political support of the UPA Government in New Delhi. It was AID which extended generous financial support to Sandeep Pandey, founder of ASHA and a known Naxalite sympathizer, to undertake a political trip to Pakistan some years ago."
" 'Apart from CAIR, a few of the groups that AID associates itself with are ASHA for Education (ASHA), Democratic Youth Federation of India (DYFI), (The Youth Wing of the Communist Party of India-Marxist), and Friends of South Asia (FOSA). Each of these organisations has dubious credentials. And many of the volunteers of organisations like ASHA and FOSA are also volunteers for AID. In many cases, the same group of people is behind multiple organisations with pompous-sounding names and uses them as money-generating schemes. Thus it comes as no surprise to know that Anu Mandavilli, a spokesperson for FOSA, is also an editor AID's monthly newsletter.'"
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Malay DewanjiHony. General Secretary, LAMP, Kolkata.andHony. Secretary General, AIAVA, New Delhi.Phone:919830082476
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