Mr Roy has raised a valid issue here and it is others, like Rajeev Kumar who have tried to introduce caste and communal and political factors. The Nehru-usurper Gandhi family has created most of the mess we are in. Even the surname Gandhi in Feroze Gandhi has been usurped by Nehru to mislead the public and we know now how far this misuse has helped them with Sonia usurper Gandhi being invited even by the UN to address its General Assembly on the Mahatma's birthday! The original surname of Feroze,a parsi, was Gandhy. G N S Raghavan in his book the 'Press in India- a new history' has written:
The respectful suffix ji is employed in this work to distinguish the future Mahatma who was born in Porbandar from the Gandhis of Allahabad. The surname of Feroze born in a Bombay based Parsi family and brought up by his elder sister at Allahabad used to be spelt as 'Gandhy', in the Parsi fashion, till his engagementwith Jawaharlal Nehru's daughter in Mar 1942. The spelling was changed to Gandhi in a press statement issued by Jawaharlal Nehru confirming the engagement.
You can imagine the scheming mind of Nehru if you understand that even today we are being damned as a male dominated society and when it comes to surnames it was only a couple of years back that it was reported that Priyanka Nehru-usurper Gandhi-Vadhra got a PR officer removed because he had spelt her hubby's surname mispelt in an invitation!
Now coming to the issue of RTI that started this thread, I am no more under the delusion that it is being implemented even by a barge pole. The information commissioners and courts had put it on ventilator even before it reached the masses. Today we are in a situation in this country where the petty criminals get caught and are punished not just illegally but even inhumanely, the professional criminals go scot free and the master minds get venerated! Today I only pray that the maoists choose their targets correctly whenever they strike. Theirs may not be enviable governance we desire if at all they are able to come to power but right now they seem to be the better option and I, for one, definitely look at them as today's freedom fighters.
regards n bw
ravi
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:40 PM, rajeev kumar <yadavrajeev_2005@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: sroy 1947 <sroy1947@gmail.com>To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: RTI challenges
Date: Saturday, 11 December, 2010, 1:34 PM
It is clear that the old British tactics of "divide and rule" can
still be applied
in India today.
My challenge is a simple one
1) Sonia Gandhi and her children and their spouses are the de-facto
rulers of India.
2) Members of this family sit in Parliament and shape/ vote on
legislation which affects all of us, including on personal laws.
3) The media makes a big thing out of the fact that they visit and eat
in Dalit households.
In this context every citizen has a right to know
1) What the religion of Members of Parliament like Sonia Gandhi and
Rahul Gandhi is
2) Furthermore, if they belong to a religion which has caste then what
that caste is.
Every Indian citizen has to declare their religion at various
occasions which is information in Govt Records. Every publicly
accessible record concerning the religion and caste of these MPs and
Prime Ministers has been rendered inaccessible or destroyed. I am not
speaking about Census records which are privileged, but documents
which citizens have.a right to inspect at any time.
Let me summarise the material available in public domain on these questions.
1) Feroze Gandhi was a Parsi. He never converted out of Zorastrianism,
2) Indira Gandhi was a Kashmiri Pandit (Hindu). In 1930 she renounced
Hindusim and converted to Adi Dharm religion.
3) Indira Nehru and Feroze Gandhi married under Adi Dharm Vedic rites
at Allahabad and their marriage was registered in Allahabad under
Special Marriage Act 1872. After some objections were raised against
this marriage ("completely illegal marriage") Jahawarlal Nehru
arranged for a Arya Samaj marriage certificate under Arya Marriage
Validation Act 1939 by submitting a memorandum (as father of bride)
claiming that Feroze Gandhi has converted to Hinduism and underwent
suddhikaran. A claim which Feroze Gandhi always denied.
4) It is very well known that Jawaharlal Nehru who had no other legal
heir broke up this marriage and 'kidnapped" Rajiv Gandhi and Sanjay
Gandhi to bring them up and did not
allow Feroze Gandhi to see them. Some investigtors have even claimed
that Nehru hastened
Feroze Gandhi's demise.
5) Rajiv Gandhi married Sonia Gandhi by Vedic rites, and got marriage
registered in Delhi under Special Marriage Act 1954 on basis of
marriage certiifcate issued by Arya Samaj. Until 2007 these papers
were at Patiala House Court New Delhi. In the supporting affidavits it
was written that Rajiv Gandhi's religion as "Adi Dharm" and Sonia
Maino as "Christian-Roman Catholic". This was also entered in certain
diaries maintained by the Marriage Officer. These diaries also
contained the records of numerous other citizens. All these records
have now disappeared.
6) Assuming for a moment that all the above information is true, and
Rajiv Gandhi was a converted Arya Samaji or Adi Dharmi then in terms
of Hindu shastra he has no caste or at best the lowest caste.
7) When Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated, he was cremated at public
expense. Surely the citizens have a right to know why the child of a
Parsi father was cremated at huge public expense instead of being
exposed at a Tower of Silence.
If there is any person here who is competent enough to draft a
"responsible" RTI request to know the religion and caste of Sonia
Gandhi or Rahul Gandhi, please discuss it, or I shall withdraw this
challenge and mark it up as a loss against this group and a win for
me.
Sarbajit
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