Wednesday, January 13, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] GoI's 'Safar' data exposes AAP's #ODD-EVEN flop show

AAP continues to rise. Punjab is 100% falling in their kitty in 2017. Delhi's MCD same way in 2017.
I believe if our objective is fighting AAP, its not the right thing. We should fight the wrongs they are doing or they are likely to do based on the what we have seen till now. similarly, we need to fight BJP for the wrongs they are doing.
AAP does not have a development vision. Thats is the saddest part. BJP does have one but its very bad for country's poor. Congress seemed to have been the most mature party till date. I was its biggest detractor and critic till recently, but seeing AAP's vision I feel Congress is a better choice now. But I would never go for it because it has been highly corrupt financially at the same time.
We have to find alternate non political strategies to get a good development model for this country and intervene in a manner that it affects politics. 

Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
No I am sure Arvind is engaging in direct financial corruption.that is taking big bribesth4ough his henchmen.
 I am not aware of either Sunita Kejriwals mid caree r training in Amsterdam  or about the family's Swiss vacation.
Sent from my iPad

> On 11-Jan-2016, at 4:06 am, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Respected Shanti Bhushan ji
>
> I presume that you mean Arvind Kejriwal has embraced corruption in its
> wider sense, ie. not strictly in terms of financial corruption per se
> by way of taking direct bribes, but in a more general sense of
> anything which corrupts or influences by extraneous considerations his
> performance as a Chief Minister.
>
> If there was so actually so much tension between Centre and State,
> would Arun Jaitley have approved Ms.Sunita Kejriwal's recent trip to
> Amsterdam for Mid-career training program ? Would Arvind Kejriwal
> really get away with abusing his wife's ultimate boss.
>
> I seem to recall that when the controversy over Ms.Kejriwal paying for

> the Swiss family Kejriwal's vacation through a PF loan arose,
> apparently an AAP spokesperson said
>
> "Why can't Kejriwal's family spend time in Swiss resorts ?
> Obviously they didn't go there to open a bank account"
>
> Was it Mr.Jaitleys strong PR who got this story pulled from national media ?
> And why didn't any of the Ambani controlled  / funded TV networks run
> it prominently ?
> And most importantly, why did the Income Tax Depts' CPIO deny RTI informants
> who applied to know.about  this Swiss trip.
>
> Sir, this is all theatrics to distract public from the wholesale
> corruption which BJP
> and AAP are doing jointly and in collusion.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>> On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In my opinion Arvind Kejriwal has already embraced corruption.He was
>> supported by all of us quite vigorously to usher in an era of clean
>> politics,He has shamelessly and ruthlessly abandoned that path and made it
>> quite difficult for people to repose much faith in any future attempts to
>> clean up politics and to make it an honest pursuit to find solutions to the
>> problems of different sections of people with the help of experts in those
>> fields.It is in my opinion therefore necessary that Kejriwal gets punished
>> for so blatantly betraying a noble cause.I have not the least doubt that
>> once he is out of power his party itself will disintegrate .He had made 70
>> promises but has not taken any steps to fulfil any of them.It is my
>> experience that any edifice based on falsehood and fraud does not last too
>> long.I agree that while Swaraj Abhiyan may be doing good work it is not a
>> political force .I however believe that as time passes ,since no improvement
>> is taking place in any sector,dissatisfaction against the AAP govt will keep
>> growing.Perhaps the municipal elections in 2017 might show this.The
>> elections to the Rajya Sabha from Delhi for the three Delhi seats have to be
>> held before 27th January 2018.If Arinds govt continues till then all the
>> three seats will go to Arvinds nominees.I don't think the Central Govt will
>> allow this to happen.They may either impose Presidents rule before that date
>> as Arvind every day keeps acting contrary to the constitution repeatedly,or
>> they may cause a split to take place among the MLAs leading to the fall of
>> govt.I know that most of the MLAs of AAP are corrupt and can be lured.Let us
>> wait see how things unfold.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 10-Jan-2016, at 5:02 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Respected Shanti Bhushan ji
>>>
>>> The demographics of those who voted for AAP, and of those who still
>>> believe in AAP enough to vote for them if election is held today is
>>> fairly well known. Their populist steps are reinforcing their primary
>>> votebank - even if alienating the second (which may mainly drift to
>>> Congress eventually) section of their voters .
>>>
>>> We are also not convinced that there is actually any disagreement
>>> between BJP and AAP. We view them as 2 sides of the same coin sharing
>>> the slogan of  "Modi for PM and AK for CM".
>>>
>>> Even if President's Rule was "somehow" imposed again (which is
>>> doubtful), it is not a permanent solution and it would only strengthen
>>> AAP. and the actual questions are :-
>>>
>>> 1) What is the present alternative to AAP in Delhi ?
>>> 2) What credibility / numbers does your Swaraj Abhiyan have ?
>>>
>>> There is no need to answer because the answer ("none") are well known.
>>>
>>> So instead of any anti-AAP movement, it may well happen that some
>>> "event" takes place which polarises AAP internally in a way AK
>>> misreads.
>>> .
>>> Insofar as IAC's role in any further anti-corruption andolans is
>>> concerned, of course we welcome everybody who shares our core views,
>>> ie..
>>>
>>> A) IAC is patriotic and anti-foreigner, so this currently means that
>>> US sponsored anti-national entities like BJP, RSS, Gandhi-ites, are to
>>> be opposed / rejected.
>>>
>>> B) We are anti-World Bank imposed agendas, so LOKPAL is opposed
>>>
>>> C) IAC stands for a united socialist secular republican agenda which
>>> is documented in our manifesto and charter.
>>>
>>> sincerely
>>>
>>> Sarbajit
>>>
>>>> On 1/10/16, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I entirely agree with Venkatraman.kejriwal Kejriwal has taken politics to
>>>> a
>>>> new low.He has fully embraced corruption.He is doing nothing to improve
>>>> the
>>>> lives of people in Delhi and only doing self propagation by using public
>>>> money and buying the media.It is now important in public interest that he
>>>> is
>>>> removed from office as early as possible.The central govt has adequate
>>>> grounds to remove him and impose Prsidents rule as he is repeatedly
>>>> flouting
>>>> the constitution.The constitution provides for imposition of Presidents
>>>> rule
>>>> if the central govt is satisfied that a govt is not acting as per the
>>>> constitution.But the central govt is likely to take this step only if
>>>> they
>>>> feel that the people of Delhi want his removal.A campaigne needs to be
>>>> organised to voice this demand.Can the volunteers of Anti corruption
>>>> movement organise this?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>

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