Dear Sarbajit,
Your answer raises more questions than answers. You may be having your personal axe to grind against Shailesh Gandhi and CIC,Satyanandan Misra ,one of the outstanding,God fearing and honest IAS officers(Retd.).I know Misra atleast for the past one decade.(You have described him slimy and corrupt).
May I ask you.If CIC order does not meet the Letter of Law,why the aggrieved parties did not approach the Courts for redressal? Why they all went together for an amendment in Parliament?
You are knowledgable,but apperas to be using it for diabolical plans to abuse those whom you do not like and misguide.
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:29:50 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Congress tables RTI Amendment Bill 2013 in Lok Sabha
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Your answer raises more questions than answers. You may be having your personal axe to grind against Shailesh Gandhi and CIC,Satyanandan Misra ,one of the outstanding,God fearing and honest IAS officers(Retd.).I know Misra atleast for the past one decade.(You have described him slimy and corrupt).
May I ask you.If CIC order does not meet the Letter of Law,why the aggrieved parties did not approach the Courts for redressal? Why they all went together for an amendment in Parliament?
You are knowledgable,but apperas to be using it for diabolical plans to abuse those whom you do not like and misguide.
navnith
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 10:29:50 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Congress tables RTI Amendment Bill 2013 in Lok Sabha
Dear Navnith
Here is the actual CIC decision
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_SM_C_2011_001386_M_111222.pdf
The simple answer is that netizens today are programmed to react in a knee jerk manner to whatever trial balloons and stimulus they are subjected to. They go by slanted reports in paid media and are incapable of reading the actual source documents for themselves. I hope you are not one of them.
Here is the actual CIC decision
http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_SM_C_2011_001386_M_111222.pdf
Please read para 55 through para 57.
The CIC gives a clear finding that Political Parties were not "established or constituted" within any of the 4 sub-categories of section 2(h) which defines who is a public authority from whom citizens can DIRECTLY seek information. ie. CIC finds the parties do not meet the LETTER OF THE LAW for their inclusion as public authority.
The CIC then while admitting that they do not meet the "letter of the law" then goes off to "show" why they are public authority in "the spirit of the law".
See the last 3 lines of para 57, the CIC's reasoning that political parties have been established by the factum of their registration under the Rep of People's Act by the ECI is a COMPLETELY FALLACIOUS AND BOGUS REASONING which evades that every party must be established as an AOP / body long before it applies for registration.
It is no wonder then that the Supreme Court in "Namit Sharma" took the view that the CIC needed a judicial member on every Bench as the present lot lacked the "judicial mind". The Delhi High Court went even further while commenting on the idiotic decisions of a particular Information Commissioner Shailesh Gandhi.
Mr. Gandhi went to SC and had to grovel there and withdraw his SLP, and was only saved from contempt proceedings in High Court because he was represented by Advs. Colin Consalves and Prashant Bhushan who grovelled again for him and got him off.
Strangely, Mr. Shailesh Gandhi is the person spear-heading this campaign to defend the "IDIOTIC" (although I view it as a shrewd and corrupt decision authored by Satyananda Mishra - a slimy chap) decision of CIC - along with Aruna Roy the NAC tout who got Shailesh Gandhi appointed as an Information Commissioner. They are all Congress people misleading us for the nation to be looted.
Mr. Gandhi went to SC and had to grovel there and withdraw his SLP, and was only saved from contempt proceedings in High Court because he was represented by Advs. Colin Consalves and Prashant Bhushan who grovelled again for him and got him off.
Strangely, Mr. Shailesh Gandhi is the person spear-heading this campaign to defend the "IDIOTIC" (although I view it as a shrewd and corrupt decision authored by Satyananda Mishra - a slimy chap) decision of CIC - along with Aruna Roy the NAC tout who got Shailesh Gandhi appointed as an Information Commissioner. They are all Congress people misleading us for the nation to be looted.
If you agree with me, then I can explain why the political parties don't want to be in the RTI Act DIRECTLY. It is not something to be explained in 1 line as it is connected with a series of RTI Judgments of Delhi High Court on PPPs and JVs which handle mega bucks.
Sarbajit
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Navnith Krishnan <navkris@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarbajit,
You write "But this is only the BILL. And it reiterates that information on registered / recognised political parties is still very much within RTI's reach".Then why the political parties want an amendment excluding them from RTI.
A line of simple explanation will be appreciated.navnith
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