Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Supreme Court Collegium

Right Sir
Reservations means not open like Terms and Conditional offer for selected few.
Its mediocre.
Lowers the Standards than raising the bar.
Entirely in agreement
Ratanlal Purohit.

On 27-Feb-2013 7:11 AM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Lets cut to the chase.

At the end of the day this is all about Jat politics and their demand for OBC status.
Gen V.K. Singh is projected as the next leader who will meld Jats and Rajputs to get them their long cherished dream - spread over Rajasthan, Haryana, UP, bit of Punjab. Corruption (like Anna) is simply another platform to be used to achieve this.

The problem is acute in Haryana and UP because of rising unemployment in under-educated youth of these communities who turn to crime (don't deny it) because of excessive reservation.

It is high time that the real disease behind this is squarely attacked - Reservations should be abolished entirely.

Reservations are dividing the country and causing caste / clans / tribes to fight each other, leaving our Army's top leadership battling with each other in a disgraceful public / media spectacle. The only people who benefit are Arms Dealers and their lobby chains.

Sarbajit

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Ram Kumar <rkatri1@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Babu Bhai,

Here I completely agree with What Dewan Singh has said,

In fact recently I was sitting with a group of senior retired judges &
understood the crucial role Khaps played in building the society.

Khaps role & importance can not be rules out by a sold out media to
the crooks & mafia of India.

Thanks & Regards

R.K.Atri

On 2/26/13, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (1) Focus is scandalous and shamelessly shoddy arrangement called SC
> Collegium to hijack positions of highest  level Judicial Positions.
> (2) I sincerely apologise if I, albeit inadvertantly and certainly not
> intentionally, hurt the feelings of any social group persons. .
>
> On 2/26/13, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Babulalji,
>>
>> Thanks for remembering Khap Panchayats. I belong to a village in Delhi
>> that
>> comes under the Delhi 360 Khap - popularly known as Palam360 covering
>> around 500 villages of Delhi and some from Haryana.
>>
>> What hurt me is that you compared Khaps with SC collegium, though you
>> rightly pointed out that khaps decisions are made in open and democratic.
>> A
>> khap is a consensus based decision making practice. Contrary to media
>> reports, it never had any violence in its practice, in the past or today.
>> Khap is a wall that the invaders might had managed to cross but could
>> never
>> demolish.
>>
>> What is Khap? If there is a problem within the family- all members sit
>> together and take decision. If in the colony or village, all residents
>> i.e
>> Gram Sabha come together and decide. If in a group of villages, called
>> *tappa,
>> *people from all the tappa villages similarly come together. Khap is a
>> third tier institution consisting of about 100 or more villages. A khap
>> or
>> a tappa or a Gram Sabha has no police power, nor it ever had in history,
>> as
>> its  style of working is not based on use of force. People are free to
>> refuse its decisions without any fear of violence.
>>
>> The modern courts have failed all over the world, as we regularly resort
>> to
>> mediation centres. As far as settling disputes is concerned, the khaps
>> are
>> age old mediation practice.
>> Khap is a third tier institution, where no case of sagotra  marriage come
>> to it. Yet, it has been dragged into it by the media.
>>
>> It will be too much in detail, if I tell you about Khaps. A little light
>> on
>> some features of the khap region will make your understanding clear.
>>
>> - No Sati Pratha ever
>> - Widow Remarriage
>> - No bonded labor
>> - No feudalism
>> - sports orientation
>> - Brahmanical ritualism at lowest
>> - No animal sacrifice.
>> - Pure vegetarianism.
>> - Khap regions have been the most crime free regions even in the modern
>> day.
>>
>>
>> The 360 villages of Delhi managed to protect themselves from any
>> conversion
>> because they could organize, defend and negotiate with the Mughals.
>>
>> Khaps are the last temples of direct democracy and if destroyed, we may
>> never regain. It is difficult to convey the truth in some sentences when
>> the reader is already biased with heavy bombardment of media slur. I only
>> wish the readers try to learn more about khaps lest we lose something so
>> precious. If they are bad, ban them, The Britishers banned them after
>> 1857,
>> because in Delhi and all around, it is the khaps who waged that war. But,
>> if they are good and useful, we may repent.
>>
>> The media slur against khaps is not about good or bad; it is about
>> control
>> of resources; it is about rural vs urban; it is about centralization vs
>> decentralization; it is about capitalism vs socialism.
>>
>> Diwan Singh 9212061046
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Babubhai Vaghela
>> <vaghelabd@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All, Supreme Court Collegium, to me, is worst than Khap Panchayat
>>> that atleast work openly unlike Collegium working secretly.  It is
>>> hightime that the Collegium is declared Arbitrary, Undemocratic,
>>> Illegal and Unconstitutional Body - A Dark Blot on Democracy.
>>> Regards,.
>>>
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>>
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>>
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