[HumJanenge] Re: Satyanand Mishra equates penalty under RTI Act to dealth penalty

Dear Capt Beniwal

Guptaji and I have widely differing views on this.

IMHO 2 of the worst ICs of India - Mr Habibullah and Mr Shailesh
Gandhi
are mainly responsible for ensuring that RTI Act has come to a
standstill.

OTH, if one realises that RTI is only ONE OF THE TOOLS in a composite
armoury / arsenal to be deployed for a citizen to interact with the
State,
there is no problem in achieving one's end. The State does respond
even if it crawls.

The only people who are complaining about RTI delays / wrong orders
are the professional RTI activist haramis.

Sarbajit

On Aug 16, 7:53 am, capt beniwal <trident...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> Roy sir, your views and advise please.  rgds.
>
> --- On Wed, 15/8/12, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Satyanand Mishra equates penalty under RTI Act to dealth penalty
> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 15 August, 2012, 12:38 PM
>
> All are bent upon to Paralyze the RTI Act. In the Act, the word shall impose penalty or like has been used which means no discretion of the Information Commissioner.  With such approach, now, very few PIOs are afraid of the RTI Act and they are getting bold every day in ducking the RTI application.  One the one side, govt. takes credit to introduce the RTI Act, on the other side, it is on the forefront to blunt it.
>         From: capt beniwal <trident...@yahoo.co.in>
>  To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, 15 August 2012 8:50 AM
>  Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Satyanand Mishra equates penalty under RTI Act to dealth penalty
>
> sir, (1) if the delay in days  is proved then does the  RTI Act gives CIC/IC  discretion  NOT to impose penalty for the duration(days) of the delay ?  days are days as per calender counting. (2) Does the CIC has another calender then the national calender published by government of India to calculate the days (day/date the application received by PIO
>  and day/date  information was given by PIO).  rgds. beniwal
>
> --- On Mon, 13/8/12, Girish Mittal <rtng.mit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Girish Mittal <rtng.mit...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Satyanand Mishra equates penalty under RTI Act to dealth penalty
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 13 August, 2012, 11:15
>  AM
>
> It seems that Mr. Mishra believes that penalty should be imposed only on rarest of rare cases as is evident from the attached decision note.
>
> He has observed that the information has been provided during hearing, but has made no note of the fact of delay inspite of the show cause notice and the information was provided only during show cause hearing...
>
> I am not guessing what defence Mr. Roy on this??
>
> Girish Mittal