Monday, February 27, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

I entirely disagree. What is wrong with the word 'secularism'? We have diverse communities and religions. In fact we should be a part of the OIC. That would peeve the Pakis!! Col Pavan Nair

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Col Singh

I freely admit that you have raised important issues, which is why
your messages are allowed. It is equally true that we may not be on
the same frequency as presently I am also experiencing rajasik gunas..
My family is heavily from Army background (although to be fair my
marriage was conducted by an Admiral and my wife was selected by an
AVM) with very strong roots to Hindutva tradition. In fact the term
"Hindutva" was originated / coined by persons from my family.
Particularly I would direct you to read the work by Raj Narain Bose
(Grand father of Indian Nationalism) titled as "Superiority of
Hinduism over all other religions" which was based on views of one of
my ancestors. Incidentally, Mr Bose was maternal grandfather of Sri
Aurobindo.. I am enclosing a PDF summary dated 1882 for your
reference..

Actually I propose that the term "Hindutva" (as it OUGHT to be
understood but isn't) is substituted for "secularism" in the Indian
Constitution.

Sarbajit

On 2/26/12, Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr sarbajit,
>
> I respect all  the good  values/ vitues; of whichever religion,
> country/village/ people these may be !  immaterial.
> I am beyond religion ie; follow spiritualism .
>
> Vivekananda said ; ' It is not in our hands to be born out of religion,
> but  we must die out of religion , meaning thereby  -go beyond  religion
>
> come along i will take u the land of God and not the mullahs;  - Mr
>  dictator/mderator sahab - it is in your hands to delete my post but not
> creation /getting me  united  in this group - learn to be tolerate enough
> and keep your communication channels open , dont shut it down that being
> easy and any body can do it having  inflated  ego .
>
> you have not been able to catch what i have said  above or what i meant ,
> we not being at the same frequency, if yes tell me what it is   OK?
>
> Regards
>
> col thakur singh
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Col Singh
>>
>> As a moderator of this list I was considering deleting your post.
>> However, you have raised very important (NON-RTI) issues.
>>
>> India is a secular state. If you dont like the term "secular" please
>> go and live in Pakistan / Iran where they have all the Sanskar you
>> need based on values and traditions of MULLAHS / MAULVIS /
>> AYATOLLAHS.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, Col Thakur Singh <thakursin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > *Dear All,*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular'
>> > state, wherein  we should be able to re-establish our ethos
>> > ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS'  ,GURUS'
>> > upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to
>> > have SATVIK  and meaningful LIFE.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having
>> > respect for our values in society.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *What is the particular term  , a substitute for the term  ,'SECULAR '
>> > in
>> > our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to
>> follow
>> > our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of
>> > the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means
>> > etc.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Your comments please,.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *regards *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Col thakur Singh*
>> > *9873379995*
>

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