Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

How u can say drunk people were Anna's supporters, in politics every thing is possible, these can be hired people of persons who wanted to disgrace the movement.

Corruption at lower level affects common man, every person does not has means to bribe, but he suffers when not able to bribe. 

I agree, constitution must be respected, but do these politicians or bureaucrats respect constitution?

Take example of rent control act passed by parliament but allowed to lapse, Is this respect to constitution, you allow illegal activities, when courts inter fear , just issue ordinance to undo court rulings, you may call this respect to constitution.

Take example of Sales Tax department, when one TV channel exposed corruption with the help of hidden camera, now no body is allowed inside department without search, and on notice boards it is written that electronic items are not allowed. Why?

how many of our MPs having criminal background? if to morrow these people say kidnapping is industry, will u say citizens do not have right to protest.

Although I am not retired bureaucrat , but I have long experience in closely watching working of bureaucrats, if people at top are corrupt, they can not check corruption at lower level.

S.K.Kapoor

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From: R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Dear Mr Harjap
                I am a retired beuracrat as well.Whatever I have written is based on my experience and knowledge.Mr Anna Hazare,I respect him, But what is his experience and knowledge to ask for a populst LOKpal bill.Mahatma Gandi Knew what he ws saying and its impact.I saw hooligans  fully drunk beating up police in support of Anna.Gandhi would have withdrawn his fst if any of his folowers misbehaved like that.What I am saying is that Respect the constitution.Provide cheks and balances in the Lokpal Bill. The whole bill will be used to correct low lvel corruption of Court Clerks and post men helping in the process high level corruption.High level corruption has an economic impact makin living impossible necessitating low level corruption of Post men and Clerks whose demsnd does not pinch but only delay the process.Anna,s Lokpal Bill will crash the administration to a Halt.
R.Srinivasan

--- On Sun, 28/8/11, Harjaap <harjaap@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Harjaap <harjaap@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, 28 August, 2011, 6:48 AM
> Ok, then why isn't it happenning ?
> What is your suggestion for a plan that will work
>
> Sent from my iphone
>
> On 28-Aug-11, at 6:55 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr Harjaap (???)
> >
> > *I* did not go on National TV obscenely waggling *my*
> (comparatively
> > slimmer) buttocks for the cheap entertainment of all
> and sundry.
> >
> > I'm not sure what your background in law is, but its
> the little things
> > like a) the Constitution b) the flag c) secularism ,
> d) justice for
> > all, and e) RULE OF LAW that hold this country
> together. Its a proud
> > day for India when sons of the soil like Mr Lalu
> Yadav, Mr Sharad
> > Yadav etc have to stand up and defend Parliamentary
> democracy from
> > brattish young foreigners like Rahul Gandhi (half
> Italian), Scindia
> > (half Nepali) etc. who have slimed their way despotic
> way into
> > Parliament
> >
> > I would strongly advise you to read / view what the
> aforesaid Yadavs
> > had to say in Parliament. In any case they are all as
> equally
> > fraudulent as Anna Hazare and IAC is.
> >
> > In my Humble view, there is only 1 surefire cure for
> corruption.
> >
> > "Pure, Righteous citizens who recognise corruption
> when faced with it
> > and can chop its head off as violently as they can".
> This is what
> > really won us our independence, and not all those
> bleating sheep
> > shouting their slogans and waving their flags.
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> > On 8/28/11, Harjaap <harjaap@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi Sarbajit,
> >>
> >> A few days ago you flamed at another members
> unprofessional use of
> >> language in the group mails and at another time
> when your point of
> >> view is contradicted.
> >>
> >> Mr R Srinivasan: you being an advocate would know
> how even the clerks
> >> in the court need money to do the work they are
> required to be doing .
> >> Hundreds of those poor lower bureaucrats you
> mention, pay bribe to get
> >> a plum posting and then justify their corruption
> because they need to
> >> break even and make a profit.
> >>
> >> There will not be. 100% concurrence on the
> movement. Even for the
> >> Independence Movement, there were thousands of
> Indians, many employed
> >> or enjoying British Patronage, used to ridicule
> the freedom fighters.
> >>
> >> I do not expect the import of what has happenned,
> to register to you
> >> just yet. For some people, it will take some time
> to realize. However,
> >> you and your families will reap the benefits.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Harjaap
> >>
>