[HumJanenge] Re: Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Agniswesh

1) I was NOT instrumental in bringing RTI. I played a very small role,
and I want no credit for it. If credit has to be given, I (from a
worm's eye view) would give it to Mr. A.N.Tiwari and his DoPT team ( a
group of honest and practical people) who wanted a STRONG RTI ACT to
bring about a STRONG BUREAUCRACY which is the best way to stop HIGH
LEVEL CORRUPTION by Ministers and Politicians.

2) If you want a LokPal Bill, even the Govt version is more than
sufficient for people who can use it well. Its weak people like ":Team
Anna" who need "strong" laws. Strong people can get by with "weak":
laws.

3) I have got more information using the weak and toothless Delhi RTI
Act than I ever got out of RTI Act 2005 (with all its notional
penalties) which Aruna Roy emasculated.

4) Today if you face a corrupt officer, just slap him or finish him
off - and be prepared to face the consequences. (I have slapped many
officers ... )

Sarbajit

On Sep 4, 7:45 am, "Agniwesh Thakur" <agniw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good Work Sarabjit. As par your note, you were instrumental in bringing RTI.
>
> Congratulations Man.
>
> Now please move on. Step up and get Jan Lokpal, an institution which will work for the young generations.
>
> Also work for the Electoral Reforms Act, which would be a game changer.
>
> Please step up and stop mud slinging Team Anna... You are alone sufficient to bring the parliament down, with your choicest verbal use/abuses without being apologetic and sheer confidence.
>
> We are with you. Hum Jaanenge aur Hum Jaan na chaahte hain..
>
> Rgds
> Agniwesh Thakur
> Change Management Consulting
> Human Resources
> Infosys Ltd, Hyderabad
> Excuse Typos.Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com>
>
> Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 08:08:11
> To: <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Reply-To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice
>
> Dear Mr Devasahayam
>
> I am confining myself to the Central RTI Act 2005. The facts are as follows
>
> 1) There were serious flaws in the FOI Act 2002 which rendered it weak and
> unimplementable.
>
> 2) Consequently the Rules for the said Act were not put in place to bring it
> into effect.
>
> 3) Immediately since 2003 a series of drafting exercises to amend / replace
> the FOI Act took place within DoPT. This exercise was carried out internally
> within DoPT (at which stage I and some other concerned private persons
> literally went over the drafts clause by clause to shoot down bizarre
> suggestions originating from NCPRI people and NAC interference and make
> valid suggestions). The DoPT had a core team ultimately under Mr Tiwari and
> he took a very keen interest in what was going on - literally he was the
> draftsman of this Act.
>
> 4) Finally when the Bill went to Parliament at the Committee stage the NCPRI
> and CHRI persisted with their nonsensical suggestions (like bring private
> companies within RTI etc), this did not work but about 30 modifications were
> made by Committee which watered down the Act. Finally when the Bill was put
> up in Parliament it was diluted even further (BJP had walked out) and the
> biggest prolem was that they added State Governments to RTI at last moiment
> which has caused many gray areas in the Act ("appropriate Govt" ??). I had
> no role to play while the Bill was in the Parliamentary process - since it
> was an all out war between DoPT babus and the NAC / NCPRI brigade.
>
> 5) Arvind Kejriwal had hardly anything to do / say in the formulation of RTI
> Act 2005 considering his seniors (!!!) in NCPRI.
>
> 6) The sitaution is analogous to the RTI Draft Rules contoversy of last
> year. NAC/NCPRI submitted aboiut 12 pages of text. The war is between DoPT
> and NAC/NCPRI. All my comments are in public domain (running into about 273
> pages). My own "lobbying" can be inspected in DoPT. When the Rules finally
> come out (???) who will get the credit in the media - the foreign finaced
> haramis like Aruna Roy OR members of this hold-out group ?
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Devasahayam MG <m...@airtelmail.in> wrote:
>
> > This debate is turning bizare. Can some one enlighten us as to the true
> > story behind the RTI Act and its real heroes and heroines?
>
> > M.G.Devasahayam
> > ____________________________________________________________