Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?

Mr.V V Rao,
Where is the Attachment please post it.
giri

On 9/1/11, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> What An Idea Sir ji , You are suggesting a Great Ammendement to RTI act 2005
> . Please read the preamble of the act and If You can access read about the
> idea /Ideals of thia ACt . then you will come to known about your
> "independence" and "independent officers" .
> Already the RTI Act 2005 in several clauses has provided for all these to
> the PIOs and If available and Not being Utilised , it is duty of every
> citizen to ensure that it is used . Your suggestion is like if you have Cold
> & sneezing , Cut the nose and everything will be alright
> Freinds , Discussions Should neccassarly revolve around What is available .
> It is Now become the english saying " A Bird in hand is Worth two in Bush" .
> Of late i Observe that Members on board Especially New members Come and
> write on board and start discussions which are beyond the scope and perview
> of the Act
> Let us exibit our Maturity in Discussions
> SIR , AS SUGGESTED BY YOU IF THE PIO HAS AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE NO GOVERNMENT
> OFFICER OR PUBLIC SERVANT WILL GO VOLUNTARILY OR OBLIGATORLY OR COMPOLUSORLY
> AND HAND OVER OR EVEN SAY TO AN INDEPENDENT PIO OF WHAT DOCUMENTS HE POSSES
> AND WILL PART WITH .
> TO CREATE SUCH AN INDEPENDENT PIO AND INDEPENDENT OFFICE TO PIO , THE
> CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE AMMENDED. EVEN IF JUDICIARY IS INDEPENDENT WING IT IS
> IN THE AMBIT OF RTI AND OPEN TO RTI
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> N vikramsimha , KRIA KOOTA , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road ,
> Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.
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> --- On Tue, 30/8/11, shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: shirish dave <smdave1940@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Cc: trident142@yahoo.co.in, rtiap2005@gmail.com
> Date: Tuesday, 30 August, 2011, 4:49 AM
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> PIOs are departmental persons and they are always trying hard to protect
> their officers in not giving the information.
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> All the PIOs should be independent officers and they should have independent
> office.
> Similar should be the case with elections officers and its staff. Election
> staff is also a deputed staff and it is influenced by the government.
> No deputation should be permitted for an independent wing. Independent wings
> should have their own staff just like judiciary.
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> --- On Mon, 29/8/11, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
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> From: capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 7:54 PM
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> sir i agree with you that problems are created by PIOs. your approach is OK
> for starters. but I make sure the PIO read the Act and act accordingly and
> nothing else. this is important to force babus change their habits of
> arrogance. beniwal
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> --- On Mon, 29/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 29 August, 2011, 3:30 PM
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> Several new RTI applicants are facing the problem of improper filing of
> application, which is a pretext for the PIO to avoid furnishing of
> information.And these silly mistakes are being entertained by the
> information commissioners by not punishing the culprits.And also, this is
> taking months of time to reach to that stage of hearing the cases in front
> of the information commission, mean while the applicants are
> getting frustrated.Why to give a chance to the culprits by improperly filing
> the application by the new applicants?, to avoid this we are asking the
> applicants to fallow the application format.This is giving positive results.
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> V.V.RAO
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> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:31 AM, capt beniwal <trident142@yahoo.co.in>
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> Sorry sir, No format required by the Act. we can say its better to write an
> application in a format to get required info but CPIO/PIO can not force
> arbitrary requirement. beniwal
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> --- On Sun, 28/8/11, RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: RTI AP <rtiap2005@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] RTI Apllication?
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 28 August, 2011, 11:30 PM
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> Dear Rahul,
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> Under RTI application there are some compulsory pre requisites, fallow them;
> 1)RTI applicant should fallow the RTI application format (see the
> attachment)
> 2)From the date of application, wait for 30 days for reply, if there is
> no response from PIO,
> 3)Apply the same to the higher authority with in the same department file an
> application to the First appellate along with the xerox copy of
> the acknowledgement, and wait for 30 days, if there is no response from
> first appellate then,
> 4) File the same to the Second appellate, the Karnataka state information
> commission along with the xerox copies of the acknowledgement.
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> V.V.RAO
> Convener, Social audit council on information right (SACIR)
> National coordinator, Citizen for verifi-ability transparency and accountability( VeTA)
> HYDERABAD -Cell- 09849064309,
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