Friday, July 22, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Supreme Court nixes Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission

I FULLY AGREE WITH THE VIEWS EXPRESSED.THE DEFENCE MINISTRY IS THE KALIYUG KUMBAKARNA.THEY SLEEP OVER MOST OF THE ISSUES AFFECTING THE COMMON MAN AND THE PUBLIC IN 62 ODD CANTONMENTS.A DELAY OF MORE THAN 8 YEARS IS NORMAL. ANY REQUEST UNDER THE RTI THE ROUTINE RESPONSE IS "NO TIME FRAME CAN BE GIVEN".
THE LOCAL ARMY AUTHORITIES ARE INSENSITIVE TO GENUINE PUBLIC COMPLAINTS.A STANDING EXAMPLE IS THE ARMY IN PUNE CANTONMENT TREATING THE LEASED LAND TO THE ROYAL WESTERN INDIA TURF CLUB FOR RACE COURSE AS THE LAND UNDER ACTIVE OCCUPATION AND THE JOKE IS IN THEIR ARITHMETIC 65 ACRE IS ACTUALLY 100 ACRES.THE DEFENCE MINISTRY IS SLEEPING OVER THE DGDE 'S STUDIED RECOMMENDATIONS TO CORRECT THE GENERAL LAND REGISTER FOR OVER 7 YEARS.
WHEN CAN WE EXPECT A NEW AVATHAR IN THE KALI TO KILL THE KUMBAKARNA OF LETHARGY AND ADMINISTRATIVE PARALYSIS OF THE DEFENCE MINISTRY, GOVT OF INDIA

R.SRINIVASAN
DIRECTOR GENERAL DEFENCE ESTATES (Retd)

--- On Fri, 22/7/11, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Supreme Court nixes Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 1:50 AM
> ATROCIOUS. That exactly is the right
> terminology that suit such
> asituation. Shooing away the complaint of getting meagre
> pension of
> Rs.80/- pm for the past many decades with a  plea
> that  Smt
> PushpaVanti's  claim is false and she is drawing a
> pensiuonof
> Rs.16,360/- is
> beyond all rationale. The new family pension of Rs.16,360/-
> pm came
> into force only recently after publication of 6th Pay
> Commission.which
> is finalised recently. That does not mean that her plea
> that she has
> been fighting in vain for decades against her meagre
> pension of Rs.80
> is false.If someone bother to put an RTI application
> seeking as to how
> long she has been getting a pension of below Rs.100/-, when
> did she
> put her complaint and when she was granted the above
> pension of
> Rs.16,360/- will expose the type of atrocities a soldier or
> his widow
> are subject to.
>
> Second is government's affidavit before the Supreme
> Court  that
> existance of a welfare measures and a comprehensive
> mechanism already
> .  A Sinik Welfare Department exist under the Defence
> Ministry since
> long. This is NOTHING BUT A BAD POST OFFICE. Let me quote
> my own
> experience with this system which the government project as
> a
> mechanism to resolve Exservicemen problem.  When an
> Exsservicemen
> submit a complaint even to Hon'ble Defence Ministry, this
> department
> sent such  petition to the department/State 
> concererned.  That
> department does not make any enquiry or ever bother to call
> the
> petetioner and ask his problem. That department sent the
> same reply
> they have ben furnishing to the complainant so far to the
> Saink
> Welfare Department also.  This reply is sent to the
> complainant often
> under the signature of the Defence Minister. No querry
> challenging the
> fraudulent nature of the reply etc is entertained and the
> case is
> closed.
>
> It is sad that this department could hoodwink even our
> Hon'ble Supreme
> Court and ensure that its orders of 15-10-2010 is recalled.
> I can
> assure you that the GOD ALMIGHTY won't forgive those who
> are
> responsible for such action. I believe that the turmoil our
> UPA
> government undergo now could be the God's curse for such
> atrocities of
> its soldiers on whose blood the government exist.
>
> Anyway I had sought certain clarification on this issue
> from the above
> Saink Welfare Department of Ministry of Defence on the
> above isssue
> using Right to Information Act. Let us wait for the reply.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22/07/2011, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=73300
> >
> > The Supreme Court has recalled its order given on 15
> November last year in
> > which it had directed MoD to set up a Commission to
> look into the grievances
> > of serving and former soldiers of the Armed Forces. In
> the same order, the
> > Apex Court had made a mention of Smt Pushpa Vanti's
> case, a widow whose
> > husband was an Army Major. The petitioner Smt Pushpa
> Vanti had claimed that
> > she was getting only a meager amount of Rs.80/- per
> month as pension since
> > the death of her husband in 1967 and her pension had
> not been revised since
> > then. In the said order, the Supreme Court also
> alluded to the discontent
> > among the serving and former members Armed Forces and
> their widows and
> > family member regarding their service condition i.e.
> Pay Scales, anomalies
> > regarding pension, inadequate pension etc. and
> directed the Central
> > Government to set up a Commission called Armed Forces
> Grievances Redressal
> > Commission to look into the grievances of serving and
> former members of the
> > Armed Forces and their dependents.
> >
> > Subsequently, the Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare
> of MoD verified the
> > facts regarding actual pension drawn by Smt Pushpa
> Vanti and also considered
> > the implications of setting up of such a Commission
> given the fact that an
> > elaborate mechanism for welfare and resettlement of
> Ex-servicemen and their
> > dependent already exists under the aegis of Department
> of Ex-servicemen
> > Welfare.
> >
> > On verification of facts it was found that Smt Pushpa
> Vanti is actually
> > drawing a family pension of Rs.16360 and not Rs.80/-
> as incorrectly
> > represented before the Apex Court. The factual
> position was brought before
> > the Supreme Court on 05 July 2011 by the Department of
> Ex-servicemen Welfare
> > through the Solicitor General of India who also
> submitted before the Supreme
> > Court that for looking after the welfare and
> resettlement of Ex-servicemen a
> > comprehensive mechanism is already in place.
> >
> > Following this, the Supreme Court recalled its order
> given on 15 November
> > 2010.
> >
>
>
> On 22/07/2011, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > ATROCIOUS. That exactly is the right terminology that
> suit such
> > asituation. Shooing away the complaint of getting
> meagre pension of
> > Rs.80/- pm for the past many decades with a  plea
> that  Smt
> > PushpaVanti's  claim is false and she is drawing
> a pensiuonof
> > Rs.16,360/- is
> > beyond all rationale. The new family pension of
> Rs.16,360/- pm came
> > into force only recently after publication of 6th Pay
> Commission.which
> > is finalised recently. That does not mean that her
> plea that she has
> > been fighting in vain for decades against her meagre
> pension of Rs.80
> > is false.If someone bother to put an RTI application
> seeking as to how
> > long she has been getting a pension of below Rs.100/-,
> when did she
> > put her complaint and when she was granted the above
> pension of
> > Rs.16,360/- will expose the type of atrocities a
> soldier or his widow
> > are subject to.
> >
> > Second is government's affidavit before the Supreme
> Court  that
> > existance of a welfare measures and a comprehensive
> mechanism already
> > .  A Sinik Welfare Department exist under the
> Defence Ministry since
> > long. This is NOTHING BUT A BAD POST OFFICE. Let me
> quote my own
> > experience with this system which the government
> project as a
> > mechanism to resolve Exservicemen problem.  When
> an Exsservicemen
> > submit a complaint even to Hon'ble Defence Ministry,
> this department
> > sent such  petition to the department/State 
> concererned.  That
> > department does not make any enquiry or ever bother to
> call the
> > petetioner and ask his problem. That department sent
> the same reply
> > they have ben furnishing to the complainant so far to
> the Saink
> > Welfare Department also.  This reply is sent to
> the complainant often
> > under the signature of the Defence Minister. No querry
> challenging the
> > fraudulent nature of the reply etc is entertained and
> the case is
> > closed.
> >
> > It is sad that this department could hoodwink even our
> Hon'ble Supreme
> > Court and ensure that its orders of 15-10-2010 is
> recalled. I can
> > assure you that the GOD ALMIGHTY won't forgive those
> who are
> > responsible for such action. I believe that the
> turmoil our UPA
> > government undergo now could be the God's curse for
> such atrocities of
> > its soldiers on whose blood the government exist.
> >
> > Anyway I had sought certain clarification on this
> issue from the above
> > Saink Welfare Department of Ministry of Defence on the
> above isssue
> > using Right to Information Act. Let us wait for the
> reply.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22/07/2011, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=73300
> >>
> >> The Supreme Court has recalled its order given on
> 15 November last year
> >> in
> >> which it had directed MoD to set up a Commission
> to look into the
> >> grievances
> >> of serving and former soldiers of the Armed
> Forces. In the same order,
> >> the
> >> Apex Court had made a mention of Smt Pushpa
> Vanti's case, a widow whose
> >> husband was an Army Major. The petitioner Smt
> Pushpa Vanti had claimed
> >> that
> >> she was getting only a meager amount of Rs.80/-
> per month as pension
> >> since
> >> the death of her husband in 1967 and her pension
> had not been revised
> >> since
> >> then. In the said order, the Supreme Court also
> alluded to the discontent
> >> among the serving and former members Armed Forces
> and their widows and
> >> family member regarding their service condition
> i.e. Pay Scales,
> >> anomalies
> >> regarding pension, inadequate pension etc. and
> directed the Central
> >> Government to set up a Commission called Armed
> Forces Grievances
> >> Redressal
> >> Commission to look into the grievances of serving
> and former members of
> >> the
> >> Armed Forces and their dependents.
> >>
> >> Subsequently, the Department of Ex-Servicemen
> Welfare of MoD verified the
> >> facts regarding actual pension drawn by Smt Pushpa
> Vanti and also
> >> considered
> >> the implications of setting up of such a
> Commission given the fact that
> >> an
> >> elaborate mechanism for welfare and resettlement
> of Ex-servicemen and
> >> their
> >> dependent already exists under the aegis of
> Department of Ex-servicemen
> >> Welfare.
> >>
> >> On verification of facts it was found that Smt
> Pushpa Vanti is actually
> >> drawing a family pension of Rs.16360 and not
> Rs.80/- as incorrectly
> >> represented before the Apex Court. The factual
> position was brought
> >> before
> >> the Supreme Court on 05 July 2011 by the
> Department of Ex-servicemen
> >> Welfare
> >> through the Solicitor General of India who also
> submitted before the
> >> Supreme
> >> Court that for looking after the welfare and
> resettlement of Ex-servicemen
> >> a
> >> comprehensive mechanism is already in place.
> >>
> >> Following this, the Supreme Court recalled its
> order given on 15 November
> >> 2010.
> >>
> >
>

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