Re: [HumJanenge] Supreme Court nixes Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission

Dear Sarab jit n col Kurup, that's a very sad story n the worst part is that the sol's welfair dept under the min of def  gen play a negative role in all such cases. Most of such cases n complaints are against this very dept n instead of doing justice to a agreaved person they defend the govt side by giving false evidences,infact they contest against the individual in courts insted helping him so it is not a soldier welfare dept it is a govt dept to function against the soldiers. Col J P narain,retd --- On Fri, 22/7/11, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote: From: Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Supreme Court nixes Armed Forces Grievances Redressal Commission To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, 22 July, 2011, 2:20 PM ATROCIOUS. That exactly is the right terminology that suit such asituation. Shooing away the complaint of getting meagre pension of Rs.80/- pm for the past many decades with a  plea that  Smt PushpaVanti's  claim is false and she is drawing a pensiuonof Rs.16,360/- is beyond all rationale. The new family pension of Rs.16,360/- pm came into force only recently after publication of 6th Pay Commission.which is finalised recently. That does not mean that her plea that she has been fighting in vain for decades against her meagre pension of Rs.80 is false.If someone bother to put an RTI application seeking as to how long she has been getting a pension of below Rs.100/-, when did she put her complaint and when she was granted the above pension of Rs.16,360/- will expose the type of atrocities a soldier or his widow are subject to. Second is government's affidavit before the Supreme Court  that existance of a welfare measures and a comprehensive mechanism already .  A Sinik Welfare Department exist under the Defence Ministry since long. This is NOTHING BUT A BAD POST OFFICE. Let me quote my own experience with this system which the government project as a mechanism to resolve Exservicemen problem.  When an Exsservicemen submit a complaint even to Hon'ble Defence Ministry, this department sent such  petition to the department/State  concererned.  That department does not make any enquiry or ever bother to call the petetioner and ask his problem. That department sent the same reply they have ben furnishing to the complainant so far to the Saink Welfare Department also.  This reply is sent to the complainant often under the signature of the Defence Minister. No querry challenging the fraudulent nature of the reply etc is entertained and the case is closed. It is sad that this department could hoodwink even our Hon'ble Supreme Court and ensure that its orders of 15-10-2010 is recalled. I can assure you that the GOD ALMIGHTY won't forgive those who are responsible for such action. I believe that the turmoil our UPA government undergo now could be the God's curse for such atrocities of its soldiers on whose blood the government exist. Anyway I had sought certain clarification on this issue from the above Saink Welfare Department of Ministry of Defence on the above isssue using Right to Information Act. Let us wait for the reply. On 22/07/2011, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: > http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=73300 > > The Supreme Court has recalled its order given on 15 November last year in > which it had directed MoD to set up a Commission to look into the grievances > of serving and former soldiers of the Armed Forces. In the same order, the > Apex Court had made a mention of Smt Pushpa Vanti's case, a widow whose > husband was an Army Major. The petitioner Smt Pushpa Vanti had claimed that > she was getting only a meager amount of Rs.80/- per month as pension since > the death of her husband in 1967 and her pension had not been revised since > then. In the said order, the Supreme Court also alluded to the discontent > among the serving and former members Armed Forces and their widows and > family member regarding their service condition i.e. Pay Scales, anomalies > regarding pension, inadequate pension etc. and directed the Central > Government to set up a Commission called Armed Forces Grievances Redressal > Commission to look into the grievances of serving and former members of the > Armed Forces and their dependents. > > Subsequently, the Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare of MoD verified the > facts regarding actual pension drawn by Smt Pushpa Vanti and also considered > the implications of setting up of such a Commission given the fact that an > elaborate mechanism for welfare and resettlement of Ex-servicemen and their > dependent already exists under the aegis of Department of Ex-servicemen > Welfare. > > On verification of facts it was found that Smt Pushpa Vanti is actually > drawing a family pension of Rs.16360 and not Rs.80/- as incorrectly > represented before the Apex Court. The factual position was brought before > the Supreme Court on 05 July 2011 by the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare > through the Solicitor General of India who also submitted before the Supreme > Court that for looking after the welfare and resettlement of Ex-servicemen a > comprehensive mechanism is already in place. > > Following this, the Supreme Court recalled its order given on 15 November > 2010. > On 22/07/2011, Col NR Kurup <colnrkurup@gmail.com> wrote: > ATROCIOUS. That exactly is the right terminology that suit such > asituation. Shooing away the complaint of getting meagre pension of > Rs.80/- pm for the past many decades with a  plea that  Smt > PushpaVanti's  claim is false and she is drawing a pensiuonof > Rs.16,360/- is > beyond all rationale. The new family pension of Rs.16,360/- pm came > into force only recently after publication of 6th Pay Commission.which > is finalised recently. That does not mean that her plea that she has > been fighting in vain for decades against her meagre pension of Rs.80 > is false.If someone bother to put an RTI application seeking as to how > long she has been getting a pension of below Rs.100/-, when did she > put her complaint and when she was granted the above pension of > Rs.16,360/- will expose the type of atrocities a soldier or his widow > are subject to. > > Second is government's affidavit before the Supreme Court  that > existance of a welfare measures and a comprehensive mechanism already > .  A Sinik Welfare Department exist under the Defence Ministry since > long. This is NOTHING BUT A BAD POST OFFICE. Let me quote my own > experience with this system which the government project as a > mechanism to resolve Exservicemen problem.  When an Exsservicemen > submit a complaint even to Hon'ble Defence Ministry, this department > sent such  petition to the department/State  concererned.  That > department does not make any enquiry or ever bother to call the > petetioner and ask his problem. That department sent the same reply > they have ben furnishing to the complainant so far to the Saink > Welfare Department also.  This reply is sent to the complainant often > under the signature of the Defence Minister. No querry challenging the > fraudulent nature of the reply etc is entertained and the case is > closed. > > It is sad that this department could hoodwink even our Hon'ble Supreme > Court and ensure that its orders of 15-10-2010 is recalled. I can > assure you that the GOD ALMIGHTY won't forgive those who are > responsible for such action. I believe that the turmoil our UPA > government undergo now could be the God's curse for such atrocities of > its soldiers on whose blood the government exist. > > Anyway I had sought certain clarification on this issue from the above > Saink Welfare Department of Ministry of Defence on the above isssue > using Right to Information Act. Let us wait for the reply. > > > > > > On 22/07/2011, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote: >> http://pib.nic.in/newsite/erelease.aspx?relid=73300 >> >> The Supreme Court has recalled its order given on 15 November last year >> in >> which it had directed MoD to set up a Commission to look into the >> grievances >> of serving and former soldiers of the Armed Forces. In the same order, >> the >> Apex Court had made a mention of Smt Pushpa Vanti's case, a widow whose >> husband was an Army Major. The petitioner Smt Pushpa Vanti had claimed >> that >> she was getting only a meager amount of Rs.80/- per month as pension >> since >> the death of her husband in 1967 and her pension had not been revised >> since >> then. In the said order, the Supreme Court also alluded to the discontent >> among the serving and former members Armed Forces and their widows and >> family member regarding their service condition i.e. Pay Scales, >> anomalies >> regarding pension, inadequate pension etc. and directed the Central >> Government to set up a Commission called Armed Forces Grievances >> Redressal >> Commission to look into the grievances of serving and former members of >> the >> Armed Forces and their dependents. >> >> Subsequently, the Department of Ex-Servicemen Welfare of MoD verified the >> facts regarding actual pension drawn by Smt Pushpa Vanti and also >> considered >> the implications of setting up of such a Commission given the fact that >> an >> elaborate mechanism for welfare and resettlement of Ex-servicemen and >> their >> dependent already exists under the aegis of Department of Ex-servicemen >> Welfare. >> >> On verification of facts it was found that Smt Pushpa Vanti is actually >> drawing a family pension of Rs.16360 and not Rs.80/- as incorrectly >> represented before the Apex Court. The factual position was brought >> before >> the Supreme Court on 05 July 2011 by the Department of Ex-servicemen >> Welfare >> through the Solicitor General of India who also submitted before the >> Supreme >> Court that for looking after the welfare and resettlement of Ex-servicemen >> a >> comprehensive mechanism is already in place. >> >> Following this, the Supreme Court recalled its order given on 15 November >> 2010. >> >